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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:55 PM   #2621
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They poured more of the basement floor just to the south of the cranes. Did not notice when they poured that but only a corner of the basement floor now needs pouring
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:04 PM   #2622
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yeh, i just saw it on the cam. wonderful to see so much and fast progress now
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:30 PM   #2623
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That's interesting to look at that high resolution webcam where u can zoom in and out etc. To me there's not much progress yet, but I hope there will be soon. Do you know when the ground work is done, and it's time to build the floors?

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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:00 PM   #2624
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edit nvm that pic was huuuuuuge

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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:35 PM   #2625
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too huge, it almost broke my monitor
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:43 PM   #2626
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I'm not sure. they're now pouring the floor of B4. I'll think they'll place the beams when thats done, but I'm not sure. It possible that they first want to build the core to groundlevel and then start building the basement floors. I'll guess it will happen between 1 and 6 months for now, but I'm far away from sure.
Don't be surprised if there is another delay on that, b/c it won't be the first, and I doubt it would be the last either.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 10:54 PM   #2627
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That's interesting to look at that high resolution webcam where u can zoom in and out etc. To me there's not much progress yet, but I hope there will be soon. Do you know when the ground work is done, and it's time to build the floors?

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The amount of progress depends on what you call progress.
Currently they're pouring sections of the floor of the basement. This includes leveling the ground, placing a layer of sand and plasic sheets on it. Then they'll install rebar and pour the basement floor. Appart from that they're also installing sewer and draining pipes in the ground. This takes it time and isn't the most spectacular part, but it's needed to build the FT. When this is finnished it will become much more interresting.
btw, work on the core is slow. The rebar in the core should be finnished by now and pouring can begin when they've placed the formwork on the outside of the core.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 01:57 AM   #2628
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too huge, it almost broke my monitor
It wouldn't even fit my 60" LCD
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 02:27 AM   #2629
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All of this "progress" is nothing compared to what will be going on in a few months.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:46 AM   #2630
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Some info on the cranes...

They are Favelle Favco M760s...

Lead contractor Tishman is renting them from Favco dealer JF Lomma.

The cranes have a maximum load of 64t (141,000 lbs) and can lift 4.4t (9,700 lb) at 70m (230 ft) jib-end.

Maximum hoist speed is 160m/min (525ft/min).

So when they reach the top... it'll be about a 3 minute haul from ground level.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:45 PM   #2631
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The amount of progress depends on what you call progress.
Currently they're pouring sections of the floor of the basement. This includes leveling the ground, placing a layer of sand and plasic sheets on it. Then they'll install rebar and pour the basement floor. Appart from that they're also installing sewer and draining pipes in the ground. This takes it time and isn't the most spectacular part, but it's needed to build the FT. When this is finnished it will become much more interresting.
btw, work on the core is slow. The rebar in the core should be finnished by now and pouring can begin when they've placed the formwork on the outside of the core.
Well, obviously To me progress means something u can see without peeping into the hole I understand there are many things that have to be done first. What kind of skyscraper stands on the ground level without any basement work done, anyway?

Will they start building the core first and when it's rising, then the floors?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:53 PM   #2632
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yes, the core will rise first
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:13 PM   #2633
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yes, the core will rise first
Okey. I asume there's not a core in a highrise which is only about 90 meters high? When they built a residential building to our neighbourhood, there wasn't any core rising, just the floors. They used some basic wall element lifted by a crane.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 07:07 PM   #2634
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Well, obviously To me progress means something u can see without peeping into the hole I understand there are many things that have to be done first. What kind of skyscraper stands on the ground level without any basement work done, anyway?

Will they start building the core first and when it's rising, then the floors?
yeah I can understand that, those things mostly become interresting when you've to draw them yourself

To answer your question about the core, well actually every building has a core The core of a building creates stability and absorbs the wind loads. In highrise office buildings like the FT those cores are clearly vissible. In residential buildings the core is not always vissible. This is because the walls between the appartments can handle most of the windloads, that way the core of the tower can be much smaller (a liftshaft for exemple) or is not necessary any more. Like what happend to the residential in your neighbourhood, which works as an huge core.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 07:50 PM   #2635
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Well, obviously To me progress means something u can see without peeping into the hole I understand there are many things that have to be done first. What kind of skyscraper stands on the ground level without any basement work done, anyway?

Will they start building the core first and when it's rising, then the floors?
Chicago Aqua, drilled the caissons as usual, then just put the mat in at and above ground level --- still strikes me a wrong .

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 06:07 AM   #2636
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:31 AM   #2637
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omg at pics, finally walls start rising

last time I been there, it was an big empty hole.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:32 AM   #2638
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very slow progress, but im sure it will fly up from now
very cool building, will be (another) icon for NewYork when built.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 03:00 PM   #2639
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Of course, the flag was missing...

Anyway, thx for the pics, carlos.
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Keep in mind that is a shot of the pathway, not the FT.
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