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Old February 21st, 2007, 06:02 AM   #261
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This one is for TalB,

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Satisfied that it was better to build the Freedom Tower than to kill it, Gov. Eliot Spitzer Tuesday said he would support plans for the 1,776-foot tower "as it is designed."
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Old February 21st, 2007, 12:39 PM   #262
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im getting tired of the criticisms of the freedom tower b/c i love it.

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The Freedom Tower will be 1,776 ft due to the pointed antenna, wish the design can change so that its height to roof that's 1,766 ft !
As cool as that would be you do realize that the roof is the same height as the original twins. It's not like they are building a smaller building and then trying to trick people into believing its bigger, instead they are building a more modern building and putting a big spire on it to jazz it up a little bit.

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After so many design change, its still disappointing, its suppose to be an icon of America.
First it will be, it will stand out in the skyline at the same height and in the same way the old twins did giving a big **** you to the terrorists and people who doubt America's strength. 2nd, the whole complex is also what is going to be an icon of America, your talking about 4 buildings + even 7 WTC not just the Freedom Tower. Look at NY's skyline with the twins vs. with the new complex. As much as I love the twins and as historical as they were and as much as they symbolized the power of NY and America its hard to argue the new skyline will not look at least as good as the old from a purely aesthetical viewpoint.



does that not make a statement.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 01:44 PM   #263
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this sure is a masterpiece, I don't understand why people are complaining
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Old February 21st, 2007, 01:56 PM   #264
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I find the Freedom Tower's design somewhat disappointing but the overall complex of four towers is excellent. The end result will be considerably better than what was there before (and I loved the old WTC).
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Old February 21st, 2007, 02:01 PM   #265
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this sure is a masterpiece, I don't understand why people are complaining
One reason is that it's too small. It looks really tall on paper, 1776 feet, but when over 400 of those feet are the spire, it's not that impressive anymore. If you got a chance to rebuild an iconic structure, you gotta go all the way. The twin towers were much more impressive for their time than the Freedom Tower will be in 2011.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 08:11 PM   #266
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i think that the project overall is good, but what it could have been will haunt the site. It is very rare for that amount of space to become available anywhere in Manhattan, and what could have been done would have made not only a statement for the city but for the world. The tower is not going to get any taller, so the well wishers will have to hold their breath for midtown west now called the 'Hudson Yards'.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 08:16 PM   #267
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I doubt this will be the tallest building in New York for more than a decade.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 08:25 PM   #268
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yes, agree. but i hope anyone plans a 600m tower for NY
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Old February 21st, 2007, 09:03 PM   #269
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It's hard to lease that space when it's that tall.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 09:04 PM   #270
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion in matters of tast. Here is my opinion: I'm a much bigger fan of #2 and #3 than of #1.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 10:48 PM   #271
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Please. What are you going to say when the tower cranes go up in a day or two from now? What are you going to say when the steel substructure is completed in a few months? What are you going to say when the core reaches grade? What are you going to say when the tower starts to rise at the end of this year? I can picture someone like you saying, "It's merely a false start; don't get your hopes up" two seconds before the skyscraper tops out.

Now that Bloomberg, Spitzer, Corzine, Silverstein, and the PA are all on the same level, there's basically no chance that the FT won't be completed.
Ebola, I have been following this process long before the FT even existed. Don't tell me something I don't know, b/c I have been keeping tabs on this a lot. BTW, didn't they also say that it was being built nearly two years ago? What happened there? I am just telling it as it is, and from what I have heard. Another thing to keep in mind is that Silverstien and the PA have been struggling to get the money they need from the insurance companies lately, and that can actually hold it back. In that case, it could be another false start. On a sidenote, you really need to chill out.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 11:10 PM   #272
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Why the hell does it take them 6 YEARS?!?!? That is a huge amount of time and its not like they started from scratch....they already have a big hole and probably piling done, etc.
tihngs get done more quickly there because theres probably double to triple the amount of workers, and its practically slavework for a few dollars an hour tops 24/7. easy to find workers over there eh?
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 12:52 AM   #273
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I seriously hate the name freedom tower. One World Trade will totally Suffice.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 02:53 AM   #274
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Tom, I have to agree with you. This new design by several prominent international Architects is a significant improvement over the Twins. But do you really believe terrorists had any thing to do with it. Any skilled demolishonist will tell you these buildings were pulled.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 03:10 AM   #275
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sorry for posting that malec
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 03:16 AM   #276
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Oh for christ sake not again
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 03:24 AM   #277
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soon ill post some pic of construction site of Freedom tower =]
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 03:28 AM   #278
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 04:30 AM   #279
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Is there a web-cam for FT?
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 05:40 AM   #280
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Mmmm, why can't they work 24/7 in NYC? Is it all surrounded by residential or is there a special law where you can't work at night?? Can't they do any sort of "quiet" night work? I live in Boston and there's plenty of night shift work going on downtown when there needs to be.
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