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Old October 20th, 2007, 11:10 PM   #2801
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no, it is from flickr

btw...here's another shot with an better view on the FT-site:

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Old October 20th, 2007, 11:38 PM   #2802
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it won't be delayed.
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DELAY COULD LAST UNTIL 2012

October 16, 2007 -- THE Port Authority's new, $2.2 billion-plus PATH terminal at Ground Zero won't be finished until 2012 at the earliest - at least a year later than the PA claims, and at least three years behind the project's projected partial opening - predicts Lower Manhattan Development Corp. Chairman Avi Schick.

"I don't think anybody expects it to be done before 2012," Schick told us yesterday. "That's not a delay, it's just reality."

At a Crain's Business breakfast last week, Schick said a planned cultural building at Ground Zero couldn't be started until the new, Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH station was finished - which he said wouldn't be "until 2012 or 2013."

The bombshell somehow went overlooked by groggy early-morning guests.

Prior to this year, downtown rebuilding officials had said the dramatic new station - which is officially called the World Trade Center Transportation Hub and features bird-like "wings" that can open and close - would be finished in 2009.

More recently, the PA has said the terminal would "open in phases" starting in 2009.

The LMDC's Web site also says that it will "open" that year and be completed in 2011.

When asked to clarify the timetable, PA spokesman Mark Lavorgna said yesterday that 2009 "is the operational, opening date," with completion in 2011.

What does that mean?

"In 2009, at some point, I can walk down into the station and get on a PATH train," Lavorgna said. "But other things like the wings won't be done yet."

In other words, it might be a long time before the new station starts to resemble the images first shown to the public in 2004.

Lavorgna declined to comment on Schick's prediction the job wouldn't be finished until 2012 or 2013.

Last February, The Post's Tom Topousis reported the station's initial $2.2 billion cost - more than the budget for the 1,776-foot tall Freedom Tower - had swelled to $3.4 billion.

That prompted PA Executive Director Anthony Shorris to announce a major "value engineering effort to bring the project in close to its estimated value," while still preserving main elements of Calatrava's design.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:06 AM   #2803
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So the supertalls can't be built because the PATH Station will be delayed?
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Old October 21st, 2007, 07:07 AM   #2804
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"That prompted PA Executive Director Anthony Shorris to announce a major "value engineering effort to bring the project in close to its estimated value," while still preserving main elements of Calatrava's design."

I hope for them that they won't change calatravas design. it is perfect how it is, it would be a suicide to change it!!!
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Old October 21st, 2007, 10:08 AM   #2805
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They really need to drop the name "Freedom Tower" already. It went out with "freedom fries", along the cackling idiot NY governor who named it.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 10:12 AM   #2806
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It's the best because it really pisses some non-Americans off. It will always stay, but 1WTC will stick too.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 10:24 AM   #2807
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So the theme of Freedom Tower should be that it pisses off non-Americans? Um.... isn't that why we ended up needing a new World Trade Center in the first place?? WOW--I rest my case!
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Old October 21st, 2007, 10:33 AM   #2808
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No, we ended up needing a new one because there are very sick, ignorant on this planet. Let people complain about the name all they want. Hearing people whine about it makes me happy. 1WTC and her sisters are all about spitting on the ideals that destroyed the old WTC.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 10:50 AM   #2809
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The name Freedom Tower is just lame along the lines of "freedom fries", because that Yankee Doodle type nonsense just never flies in NY. I hear people refer to it as 'the new trade center' more than anything nowadays. I was just wondering when they were going to officially drop that name. We'll see.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:13 PM   #2810
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I see a big concrete pump, a lot of concrete trucks and a bunch of people on the form work of the core. If have a strong feeling that they're pouring the first floor of the core TODAY
They've only started an hour ago, so I'm not sure yet

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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:38 PM   #2811
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yeah whatever guys. Go take a beer.
I see a big concrete pump, a lot of concrete trucks and a bunch of people on the form work of the core. If have a strong feeling that they're pouring the first floor of the core TODAY
They've only started an hour ago, so I'm not sure yet
It seems that way, or they are pouring something in between the two core boxes.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:49 PM   #2812
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i'm not entirely sure thats what they're doing... you are referring to the blue hose thing right? it hasn't moved all day
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 09:13 PM   #2813
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The name Freedom Tower is just lame along the lines of "freedom fries", because that Yankee Doodle type nonsense just never flies in NY. I hear people refer to it as 'the new trade center' more than anything nowadays. I was just wondering when they were going to officially drop that name. We'll see.
It IS the new World Trade Center. It will always be the World Trade Center. However, this building alone will be known, and referred to as the "Freedom Tower". Whether we like the name or not is irrelevant. It will be joined by its brothers and sisters at the WTC site.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:11 PM   #2814
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i'm not entirely sure thats what they're doing... you are referring to the blue hose thing right? it hasn't moved all day
The hose of the blue concrete truck was used to pour a section of a floor of 9A passage. I was referring to the hose of the green concrete truck behind the cranes. They're pouring concrete from 7 AM until now, so I'm very sure they're pouring the core.
Here's a picture of this historic event:



That this beauty may rise
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:16 PM   #2815
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they're definitely pouring the core
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:21 PM   #2816
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Picture of todays pour

http://www.wtcrising.com/

Click on the number 3. after the page loads

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Old October 23rd, 2007, 12:01 AM   #2817
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The day has finally come!! Its been a long time coming

Smooth sailing from here
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 12:23 AM   #2818
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More webcams needed and video streams ... and microphones!!
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 12:25 AM   #2819
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The pour is still continuing. I am certain with the thickness of these walls they may pour late into the evening. I could be wrong though.
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Too good to not be here - from WTC Rising image #8 - Freedom Tower form on 22 October 2007
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