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Old January 26th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #29641
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New steel on site this morning!! Finally!!! Don't know how to post pics so here's the link to the webcam I saw it on lol,

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Old January 26th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #29642
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From my office window, I just saw a steel beam moving from the top!! That will probably be the most exciting part of my day.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #29643
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Well as with everything, to each their own. I do like One World Trade very much, just not as much. I have no idea what all the guys saying it sucks are on about. I honestly don't think any of the other proposals were anywhere near as nice, and rebuilding the twins would just be living in the past. You don't need to resurrect those hulking monstrosities in order to remember those lost.


Most of the other proposals were horrible, especially the ones that Liebeskind came up with. This one is looking better with the passage of time, and when finished, will looke even better yet. As for the twins, it has nothing to do with living in the past, it has to do with, the fact that they would not be fininancially feasible and structually outdated with the materials used, based on energy consumption, and the overall physical practicality of todays needs and demand. A set of twins can be built anytime, and anywhere, with todays materials, and standards. Since what was there was destroyed, it deserves, something equal to it, in its grandeur, and size regardless of style. As for the ESB, what makes that so spectacular is its standing throughout time, and its overall function of purpose, as well its grandeur.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #29644
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I agree with the reasons for not building the twins again and I was gonna say them, but I thought I best keep the reason simple so as not to open myself up to those who seem to jump on anything they perceive to be a slight against the old towers.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #29645
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We hardcore Twin Tower lovers aren't that evil to jump on people who prefer this new complex .... at least I am not

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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #29646
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From my office window, I just saw a steel beam moving from the top!! That will probably be the most exciting part of my day.
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I was out for a bit today and they are in fact raising steel today.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #29647
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I agree with the reasons for not building the twins again and I was gonna say them, but I thought I best keep the reason simple so as not to open myself up to those who seem to jump on anything they perceive to be a slight against the old towers.


I liked the twins myself, and would like to think something similar to them could be rebuilt, anywhere, New York or not, now that might piss off alot of New Yorkers, but the point being is, that it is not out of the realm of possibility, with even todays standards and codes, given the right structural materials etc. I believed even in the aftermath, right from the beginning, that this new WTC wouldn't be like the original, because of what I said before about the changed economics, and structural codes, from the '60s and early 70s. Plus a different demand for office space. What pissed me off however, was that idiot governor at the time promised the victims' families they would not be like they were before. I felt bad for the relatives of the victims, as anybody did, but how in the hell, is the architectural style going to change, or make a difference in what happened? All it is, is politics and politicians being politicians. Can't we put politics aside, for once, especially in the most monumental events?

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I was out for a bit today and they are in fact raising steel today.


Which is definitely good news.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #29649
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New Steel yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #29650
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Old January 26th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #29651
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Best news of the day! Let's hope the steel keeps on coming. Judging by the pics of SSP, should be passing floors 91 and 92. Getting closer to be the tallest in NYC.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #29652
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Hooah, so happy for this!
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Old January 27th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #29653
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Is the base going to be clad like the base of Tower 4?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 12:04 AM   #29654
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Is the base of this tower going to be clad like the base of tower 4?
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well, no, unless you think it's aesthetically pleasing to put see-through glass on top of a concrete bunker.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #29656
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I agree with the reasons for not building the twins again and I was gonna say them, but I thought I best keep the reason simple so as not to open myself up to those who seem to jump on anything they perceive to be a slight against the old towers.
Generalize much?
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Generalize much?
Um, no. I don't think so. Those who would jump on anything they perceive to be a slight against the old towers would have jumped all over me. As you didn't do that, you're obviously not one of them.
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That's very good of you sir.



Um, no. I don't think so. Those who would jump on anything they perceive to be a slight against the old towers would have jumped all over me. As you didn't do that, you're obviously not one of them.
Nah, I'm not one of them. I did want the old towers rebuilt (albeit modernized and with the restored street grid.), but I respect the opinions of others who thought differently. Plus what's being built is a HUGE improvement over the original Libeskind proposal.

Heck, I worked in the North Tower from 1997-2001 and didn't think anything special of the original towers. Impressive? Yes. Iconic? Yes. Beautiful? No!
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Nah, I'm not one of them. I did want the old towers rebuilt (albeit modernized and with the restored street grid.), but I respect the opinions of others who thought differently. Plus what's being built is a HUGE improvement over the original Libeskind proposal.












Cheers! I couldn't have said that better myself. I felt that way about the originals myself in the beginning, but I was open to other ideas too. I like this design alot, and I hated those Libeskind plans. As it turned out, I've discovered, that I'm not all that different after all. Alot of people seem to think the same way I do.


Heck, I worked in the North Tower from 1997-2001 and didn't think anything special of the original towers. Impressive? Yes. Iconic? Yes. Beautiful? No!









They were spectacular because of their size, maybe not the most beautiful structures around, but not ugly by any stretch of the imagination either.
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