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Old February 9th, 2012, 07:06 PM   #30001
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Exactly, it depends on what people are familiar with.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #30002
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Also, standing directly under a building is often the worst way to get a feel for it's size, ESB doesn't feel very big when you stand beneath it, but from a couple blocks away it feels huge.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #30003
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Also, standing directly under a building is often the worst way to get a feel for it's size, ESB doesn't feel very big when you stand beneath it, but from a couple blocks away it feels huge.
If a building tapers (such as the ESB does), then you're right, standing directly under doesn't give a good feel for the size (mainly because you lose the top portion, which can't be viewed from below).

But boxes that don't taper (e.g., the original WTC towers) do appear huge when viewed from below, since you get the whole building in your view, from the very bottom to the very top.

Even though I saw them several times, I always felt amazed when standing right at the base of the Twin Towers and looking up.

I'll be curious to see what the new 1 WTC feels like from below, since depending on where you stand, you might not get the full effect (because of the tapered walls).
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Old February 9th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #30004
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Looks nice...
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #30005
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If a building tapers (such as the ESB does), then you're right, standing directly under doesn't give a good feel for the size (mainly because you lose the top portion, which can't be viewed from below).

But boxes that don't taper (e.g., the original WTC towers) do appear huge when viewed from below, since you get the whole building in your view, from the very bottom to the very top.

Even though I saw them several times, I always felt amazed when standing right at the base of the Twin Towers and looking up.

I'll be curious to see what the new 1 WTC feels like from below, since depending on where you stand, you might not get the full effect (because of the tapered walls).
Yea but even from the street you can see up at least 1050 feet of ESB's facade, I remember Sears not even looking that big when right next to it, it wasn't until I was a block or so away that I realized how omnipresent it was. I think the new WTC will look very massive in person personally.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #30006
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Trans. glass cladding is the best way to go. There are already many black boxes and we don't need more. The reflections of light make a glass building far more interesting to look at as the sun changes positions.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #30007
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Exactly, and it mirrors the surrounding buildings, which makes fantastic views.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #30008
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Wich tower do they say will be topped out first tower 1 ? Or tower 4 ? :s
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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #30009
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4th WTC
Because 1 WTC needs the spire to be topped out I think. The spire could be counted to the building structure, or?
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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:57 AM   #30010
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Because 1 WTC needs the spire to be topped out I think. The spire could be counted to the building structure, or?
I don't surpose you know when 4WTC will be toped out ?
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Old February 10th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #30011
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Iirc they said that both towers 1 and 4 should top out (to roof) in April this year though I dunno if there won't be delays
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Old February 10th, 2012, 01:04 AM   #30012
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Iirc they said that both towers 1 and 4 should top out (to roof) in April this year though I dunno if there won't be delays
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Old February 10th, 2012, 01:12 AM   #30013
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Also, standing directly under a building is often the worst way to get a feel for it's size, ESB doesn't feel very big when you stand beneath it, but from a couple blocks away it feels huge.
Not true. When i was 9, about 7 years ago i visited new york and standing looking right up under ESB scared the shit out of me. I had already seen willis tower and later cn tower and other north american skyscrapers but something out the empire state building made it seem so scary. It was amazing.

Althought the best moment ever was the first day of arriving in new york in a very foggy night we looked out our hotel window dissappionted we couldnt see empire state building(hotel right next to it) though we were on the wrong side of the hotel to see it. During the night my mum woke me up a told me to look out the window, the fog had cleared and it was spectatcular. sorry for going off topic
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Old February 10th, 2012, 01:28 AM   #30014
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Old February 10th, 2012, 02:28 AM   #30016
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Old February 10th, 2012, 04:19 AM   #30017
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Alan - Will there be more steel put in tomorrow or were those 17 the last ones? When will they raise the cocoon? Thanks for your answers in advance, it is great having you on this forum.
On Friday the cocoon should be jumped, weather permitting. I say that because winds this am were above 30mph when I got to site till about 10am, when they dropped cranes could then work. Today they got 51 pieces of perimeter spandrel / core beams erected.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #30018
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On Friday the cocoon should be jumped, weather permitting. I say that because winds this am were above 30mph when I got to site till about 10am, when they dropped cranes could then work. Today they got 51 pieces of perimeter spandrel / core beams erected.
Great progress!
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Old February 10th, 2012, 09:20 AM   #30019
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