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Old March 20th, 2012, 02:56 AM   #30741
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Whoa! The lightning rod is 11 feet tall! That's insane. I bet being the tallest building in the area by far, that this building will get hit by lightning quite often.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 04:16 AM   #30742
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Spires are counted in final hight, so yes this will be the tallest in the USA.
Willis tower will be the tallest tower in my eyes because you can build a building who is 1000 feet tall and then take a spire whi is also 1000 feet tall and then you have a "skyscraper" who is 2000 feet tall over 600 meters in height, but only 300 meters in office floors.

I don't like that 1wtc is called tallest because it has the same height as the old wtc one was 415 meters and the other was 417 meters tall. It is a nice building but not superior the old ones.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:42 AM   #30743
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Too bad. WTC1 will be the tallest building in this country.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 06:19 AM   #30744
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Too bad. WTC1 will be the tallest building in this country.
Not in my eyes if I stand on top of willys and you on 1wtc I will stand taller than you
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Old March 20th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #30745
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Not in my eyes if I stand on top of willys and you on 1wtc I will stand taller than you
it isn't a huge difference in height its Willis tower is only 83 feet taller not so much of a huge difference and if you measure 1wtc by the communication ring its only a mere 50 feet
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Old March 20th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #30746
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Willis tower will be the tallest tower in my eyes because you can build a building who is 1000 feet tall and then take a spire whi is also 1000 feet tall and then you have a "skyscraper" who is 2000 feet tall over 600 meters in height, but only 300 meters in office floors.

I don't like that 1wtc is called tallest because it has the same height as the old wtc one was 415 meters and the other was 417 meters tall. It is a nice building but not superior the old ones.
Yeah sure, 1WTC is just another plain filler.

The new 1WTC is better than the old one in so many ways:
- safer (safest supertall on earth)
- taller
- more environmentally friendly (LEED...)
- more beautiful
- more aesthetically pleasing
- more interesting geometrical form
- and what not...
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Old March 20th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #30747
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Old March 20th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #30748
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I like this Tower but the roof should have at least passed Willis Tower's. It's not even that far off but I feel the whole 1,368' figure is pointless because that is just the parapet height, the roof is actually only 1,334' 8". Plus they'll be nothing but mechanical equipment up there anyway so the public will never be able to go up to that height since they scrapped the outdoor observation deck proposal. 1 WTC won't be the tallest building in the country by much. Since this is just one tower they should have went a bit higher w the roof, perhaps 1,500' or something like that. Screw the FAA, the antenna should have exceeded 2,000'. The 1,776' figure is also pointless because it won't be exactly 1,776' plus the Freedom Tower name was scrapped anyway. The Port Authority & Durst should not be the ones in charge of this Tower.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #30749
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Yeah sure, 1WTC is just another plain filler.

The new 1WTC is better than the old one in so many ways:
- safer (safest supertall on earth)
- taller
- more environmentally friendly (LEED...)
- more beautiful
- more aesthetically pleasing
- more interesting geometrical form
- and what not...
Thats your opinion not mine, every one dosen't think that. I do not think that this 1wtc is better the old ones ruled the skyline now this tower is first only one I thinked that they should have built it taller and build it a twin, then I would have been satisfied. Every one dosen't think that this is the right replacement. I have relatives in New York and they have said what I am saying
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:18 PM   #30750
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #30751
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Chabourne & Parke WTC deal is ‘dead’

By STEVE CUOZZO
Last Updated: 12:42 AM, March 20, 2012
Posted: 11:49 PM, March 19, 2012

"Closely watched talks for law firm Chadbourne & Parke to move to 1 World Trade Center cratered yesterday, leaving followers of both downtown and the legal landscape scratching their heads.

Chadbourne abruptly informed 1 WTC’s owners, the Port Authority and the Durst Organization, that the deal was dead — “as in dead, not a negotiating posture,” an informed insider said.

“They will not be going there.”

The reversal was surprising because the clock’s ticking on Chadbourne, which must leave behind 300,000 square feet at 30 Rockefeller Plaza in 2014, when Deloitte will take its space.

A relocation to 1 WTC — future home to Condé Nast — seemed like a sure bet when the New York Times reported on Jan. 26 that the tower was “set” to sign the law firm.

But a few weeks later, The Post cautioned that Chadbourne had yet to sign a term sheet.

Reps for the PA and Durst declined to comment yesterday, as did Chadbourne’s broker, Newmark Knight Frank’s Moshe Sukenik.

Chadbourne would have added 200,000 square feet to the total 1.37 million square feet already leased to private-sector firms at the 3.05 million square-foot tower.

The iconic skyscraper, represented by Cushman & Wakefield, will get by without Chadbourne. But it marks the latest damper on real estate industry claims that law firms are aggressively on the move.

Chadbourne is the third firm to recently back out of talks. Mayer, Brown changed its mind about Boston Properties’ 250 W. 55th St. And as The Post reported, Morgan, Lewis, after kicking the tires at several addresses, decided to renew its lease at Peter Kalikow’s 101 Park Ave."
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Old March 20th, 2012, 06:46 PM   #30752
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Well they have to move somewhere, right? Hudson Yards maybe?

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Thats your opinion not mine, every one dosen't think that. I do not think that this 1wtc is better the old ones ruled the skyline now this tower is first only one I thinked that they should have built it taller and build it a twin, then I would have been satisfied. Every one dosen't think that this is the right replacement. I have relatives in New York and they have said what I am saying
The first three points are facts (safer, taller and more environmentally friendly), not opinion.
And the rest: to each his own.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #30753
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Yeah, the key from that article is:

"The reversal was surprising because the clock’s ticking on Chadbourne, which must leave behind 300,000 square feet at 30 Rockefeller Plaza in 2014, when Deloitte will take its space."
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Old March 20th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #30754
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most of the buildings in NY progress with amazing speed
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Old March 20th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #30755
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I myself visited New York a week ago and saw the tower up close... and to tell you the truth there's nothing "special" in the design.... it is modern, yes, but that doesn't mean its immediately pleasing to the eye or the most beautiful tower in downtown... in fact, I think I'd prefer the older gothic styled towers to this one, since, for the time they were built, they were exceptionally tall, and also well designed and creative... I think WTC 1 has gotten much less character than what it deserves for being NY's symbol of rebuilding... and now they want to make the spire thinner and simpler!!! In short, I think everyone expects more from a building designed to replace the reknown Twin Towers.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #30756
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I myself visited New York a week ago and saw the tower up close... and to tell you the truth there's nothing "special" in the design.... it is modern, yes, but that doesn't mean its immediately pleasing to the eye or the most beautiful tower in downtown... in fact, I think I'd prefer the older gothic styled towers to this one, since, for the time they were built, they were exceptionally tall, and also well designed and creative... I think WTC 1 has gotten much less character than what it deserves for being NY's symbol of rebuilding... and now they want to make the spire thinner and simpler!!! In short, I think everyone expects more from a building designed to replace the reknown Twin Towers.


You cannot pass judgment on this tower until you have seen it with its completed spire/antenna and completed base. It's simply far too early for pessimism like this.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #30757
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Old March 20th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #30758
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Not in my eyes if I stand on top of willys and you on 1wtc I will stand taller than you
It doesn't really matter, spires are added to buildings for extra height all the time, look at petronas vs. sears tower.

not saying it's right but it's not a big deal
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btw this thread now has more replies than Burj Khalifa
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Old March 20th, 2012, 09:57 PM   #30760
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