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Old February 25th, 2007, 11:28 AM   #301
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I think he means the name freedom tower, freedom fries.
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Old February 25th, 2007, 02:15 PM   #302
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very beautiful skyscraper in american way
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Old February 26th, 2007, 11:11 PM   #303
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It doesn't mean anything. That was all opinion. There will be no delays. In a year or so from now, all 5 skyscrapers will be being built at the same time, plus the GS Tower. The current plan is concrete. The only real poblems are 130 Liberty Street being taken down and that stupid Staircase blocking Tower 2.
I don't want to rain on your parade again Ebola, but I remember people similar to yourself saying the same thing 2 1/2 years ago about the FT finally being built, and that never happened, so there is a good chance that this could be another false start, which even Sheldon Silver fears.
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Old February 27th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #304
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Do you have any updates? , I would to see if the tove have started to rise over street.
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Old February 27th, 2007, 01:43 AM   #305
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Yeah! i want to see some updates too.
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Old February 27th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #306
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Doesn't anyona have any new pictures?
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Old February 27th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #307
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My opinion as an independent interested observer who has a moderate knowledge of the proposals and having been to NY and having visited twice the twin giants prior to their destruction:

The impression one gets by the final designs is mixed. Although the surrounding buildings of the new WTC successfully represent the new architectural styles en vogue these days, the finalised Freedom Tower designs are somewhat indifferent. We are all aware of the considerations that might have dictated an antenna for the top of the building which, albeit part of the structural frame of the building (and thus contributing to the calculation of the structural height) it gives the impression of an attempt to cheat the achievement of an optimum height rather than making it a new standard for US engineering, in the same manner that the structural heights for the Empire State, the original WTC or the Sears Tower did in earlier times.

Of paramount importance for the final acceptance of a building as "tall" especially in a city like NY where buildings of 600 to 1000 ft are the bread and butter of its iconic value as an urban landscape, is the height of the tallest habitable/ accessible level of the building, combined with the number of floors. At the time this building will be completed, the Dubai Tower will also be complete for two years already with an unprecedented floor count of 150+ according to what we know and a breathtaking 2000 feet + expected height with the tallest accessible level to be, I would reckon, above the 1900 feet mark and this is a modest estimate.

So, both the floor number and the tallest habitable level in the FT will be at significantly lower standards than the expected tallest for the years to come, and God knows what China or Russia may come up with till then (plans and speculations for the Russia Tower allegedly flirting with a height close to the 2000ft mark). Thus, although for symbolic reasons the height of 1,776 feet can and may be considered final, true, the FT is in need for a major redesign. Its specs and current design is way too low for what it seeks to represent and does not pay tribute neither to the city of NY, nor to the enormous significance this location has -and will have- to NY and America's collective and historic memory in the years to come.

Let's hope the plans will be revised to something balder.
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Old February 27th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #308
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tallest buildings in NY are of no concern, what matters is aesthetics. the pissing contest in NY has been done with for decades.

PaTACKY (and i stress tacky because he attached a TACKY ****** name to Tower 1) just slabbed the freedumb tower at 1,776 feet in honor of our DoI. the goal was never to be the tallest, period.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 12:33 AM   #309
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Doesn't anyona have any new pictures?
They will pretty much look the same as they do now for the next year, and that is if it actually does get built in the end.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 12:46 AM   #310
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The designers of the World Trade Center Tower should have made the building 2001 feet tall. As a memorial to the year the Towers came down. And the highest occupied floor should have been 1776 feet tall. To remind us of the year of our country's independence.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #311
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The designers of the World Trade Center Tower should have made the building 2001 feet tall. As a memorial to the year the Towers came down. And the highest occupied floor should have been 1776 feet tall. To remind us of the year of our country's independence.
Now THAT's a good idea.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 01:42 AM   #312
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They will pretty much look the same as they do now for the next year, and that is if it actually does get built in the end.
Ok I really think there is opinion and then there is being a jerk about your opinion. I love New York and I wanna hear things about it and not have the thread and news tainted by your all consuming pessimistic nature! I just want to read and Im cool with some positive bias and even negative bias posts but your comments never have anything good to say. This is the first time I have been genuinely frustrated with somebody on SSC and I dont make it a habit. I like to put in my two cents occaisionaly and Im not always the type who posts "Great project, nice progress, excellent design". Sometimes I am really negative about stuff. However, I dont stick with all threads New York region related and post extreamly negative things to bring it down. Well thats my "two cents" for the day...
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Old February 28th, 2007, 02:02 AM   #313
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The designers of the World Trade Center Tower should have made the building 2001 feet tall. As a memorial to the year the Towers came down. And the highest occupied floor should have been 1776 feet tall. To remind us of the year of our country's independence.
i like it.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 02:40 AM   #314
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i like it.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 04:11 AM   #315
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Yeah its definatly more modern symbolic. It makes more sense to have a sympolic height related to the attack not just the country's independence.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 04:20 AM   #316
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The designers of the World Trade Center Tower should have made the building 2001 feet tall. As a memorial to the year the Towers came down. And the highest occupied floor should have been 1776 feet tall. To remind us of the year of our country's independence.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 05:02 AM   #317
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Yeah its definatly more modern symbolic. It makes more sense to have a sympolic height related to the attack not just the country's independence.
I agree
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Old February 28th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #318
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The tower cranes will be up by tomorrow - hopefully. (: If not, then very soon. The horrible weather may have delayed it.
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Old February 28th, 2007, 05:25 AM   #319
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Old February 28th, 2007, 08:32 AM   #320
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when did they start this thing? it seems like its been forever...
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