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Old May 7th, 2012, 08:25 PM   #31981
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I agree with you that 1WTC is a masterpiece (though it could be at least a little bit taller). But I disagree with you that 9/11 was just an attack against America because it was an attack against the whole western world. We had our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq too.
Yea that's true, i agree with that.

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Yeah, it's funny because they're taking away the many "small details" that give this building a high quality, like the spire, the base, and the small plaza (which as somebody commented, can still be redesigned; thankfully). Hopefully all comes to fruition in a good way to give Americans the iconic tower they deserve.
The antenna is not going to look like the one on the old north tower, theres still going to be a casing, beacon, and LED lights according to an email from Dunst
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Old May 7th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #31982
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London isnt even the capital of western europe. Its a new millinium. NYC is the only real financial, political, power capital of the world.

London may have been what it was by only till WWII, what NYC did in last 50 yrs is to set itself up.

London is now measured with Mumbai & Beijing, more like 3rd tier financial capitals.

New York is truly "the" capital of the world in every sense. The size, the scope, the economic importance, the "political" importance (UN building), the cultural importance & entertainment importance.

Tier 2 capitals would be. Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo.

Tier 3 capitals would be. London, Paris, Dubai, Beijing, Mumbai etc etc.
Not according to this

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/10/...o-rich-people/
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Old May 7th, 2012, 08:35 PM   #31983
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Not sure if you guys saw these, but I took them recently. 30 miles out in Western NJ (morristown)

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Old May 7th, 2012, 08:47 PM   #31984
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Guys lets get back on topic! I posted something that proved London's importance, but I deleted it because it was off topic. If anyone wants to continue this discussion, do it through pm. If you want the global cities list pm me. Anyways back on topic. Those pictures above are great, it's crazy how far away you can see 1 WTC.
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Old May 7th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #31985
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What are those two midtown buildings one of which looks as tall as 432 Park and the second one even taller?

Btw, you might have the most awesome skyscrapers in the world, but we have 3 goals and you just 1

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Old May 7th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #31986
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Not sure if you guys saw these, but I took them recently. 30 miles out in Western NJ (morristown)

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Guys lets get back on topic! I posted something that proved London's importance, but I deleted it because it was off topic. If anyone wants to continue this discussion, do it through pm. If you want the global cities list pm me. Anyways back on topic. Those pictures above are great, it's crazy how far away you can see 1 WTC.
Thanks alot, i never knew the city could be seen from this far out either. i see it almost everyday now, the top just pops above the forest of trees. It's amazing
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #31987
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When does anybody here think the new spire design will be released ?
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:34 PM   #31988
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London isnt even the capital of western europe. Its a new millinium. NYC is the only real financial, political, power capital of the world.

London may have been what it was by only till WWII, what NYC did in last 50 yrs is to set itself up.

London is now measured with Mumbai & Beijing, more like 3rd tier financial capitals.

New York is truly "the" capital of the world in every sense. The size, the scope, the economic importance, the "political" importance (UN building), the cultural importance & entertainment importance.

Tier 2 capitals would be. Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo.

Tier 3 capitals would be. London, Paris, Dubai, Beijing, Mumbai etc etc.
London and NYC are both the only Alpha ++ cities, and are both as financially powerful as each other...

I have lived in NYC, but not London, and when I go to London it feels like there is more going on, nightlife, olympics, just look at the NYE celebration London allways trumps NYC...While on paper they are pretty much the same, London feels more like the capital of the world when you are there
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #31989
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And also, in the NYC 2030 pic, what is the tower behind the hearst tower??
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #31990
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You maybe want to say: the airplane is very small in comparision with the Freedom tower.
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #31991
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LOL, compared to the plane it looks like a megatall

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Old May 7th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #31992
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including the current height jump, i'd say there about 3 jumps to go before this thing tops out.
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Old May 7th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #31993
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Is it on floor 102 or 103
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Old May 7th, 2012, 11:56 PM   #31994
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LOL, compared to the plane it looks like a megatall

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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #31995
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London and NYC are both the only Alpha ++ cities, and are both as financially powerful as each other...

I have lived in NYC, but not London, and when I go to London it feels like there is more going on, nightlife, olympics, just look at the NYE celebration London allways trumps NYC...While on paper they are pretty much the same, London feels more like the capital of the world when you are there
Aren't the original "Big 4" nyc, rome, tokyo and london?

I've lived in nyc, and been to london and rome. Since I haven't lived in london, it's hard to compare, but it seems just as lively, diverse, cultured, entertainment, economically strong as nyc. But, I bet tokyo feels the same too. Can't really say that of rome, since I don't know it either and never lived there; but it seemed kinda desolate compared to london and nyc, especially the nightlife and streets - more touristy if you ask me. Nightlife...hmm, london does seem to be bangin, but so does nyc. I can't really say which is better, theyre both awesome. And I think, things like fashion, music, entertainment comes and goes in phases..ie: nyc was big in music in the 80s, 90s, recently, then started to slow down in the 2000's, but is now pickin up again... while london's music scene nowadays is getting bigger and bigger, but now berlin is taking over london currently. I think all the world cities just go full circle and go in cycles when it comes to fashion, entertainment, music, etc - hippest city yesterday, dead today, hippest again tomorrow; while the another takes it's place and trades every so often.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #31996
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Wow there are a bunch of buildings taller than the ESB. Is there a zoning law (just in midtown) that does not permit buildings to be any taller than the spire height of the empire state building? And 18 years later still have not cleared the smog problem? Also the freedom tower is beautiful, hope for those jumps to be finished.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:48 AM   #31997
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including the current height jump, i'd say there about 3 jumps to go before this thing tops out.
I think it'll be 4 jumps, cause iirc they're doing these higher floors only 1 per jump
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Is it on floor 102 or 103
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I think it'll be 4 jumps, cause iirc they're doing these higher floors only 1 per jump
I'd say three jumps. One for each new floor, 103, 104 and finally 105. The remaining floors all have fairly high ceiling heights.
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I'd say three jumps. One for each new floor, 103, 104 and finally 105. The remaining floors all have fairly high ceiling heights.
I dunno but won't the parapet have a jump of its own?
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