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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:19 AM   #32121
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does this mean 432 park tower will be the tallest in manhattan? this cant even stay the tallest in its own city. i hate everything.
By roof height, yes.

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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #32122
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Does anyone know why they can't make it white?



I think that's an awesome compromise.
it is white, it's the lighting in the render.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #32123
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Compared to the old proposal, the new 'spire' looks like a rusted pipe. Please tell me I am dreaming...
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #32124
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Im just getting annoyed by all the changes being made halfway through the project. This isnt JUST some building. i really enjoyed the officialy height being 1776 and that is apperently no longer the case? just dreadful to me.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:24 AM   #32125
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it is white, it's the lighting in the render.
Maybe it's because the colors are jacked up on my comp but it looks rust red to me. The sun is still up, it should be dark yellow at worst.


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Im just getting annoyed by all the changes being made halfway through the project. This isnt JUST some building. i really enjoyed the officialy height being 1776 and that is apperently no longer the case? just dreadful to me.
ITS A NUMBER
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #32126
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I just wanted to weigh in on the spire/antennae issue. I have mixed feelings, because all these years we've been told we're getting one thing, and there was a symbolism behind it which I really appreciated (cheesy as it might have seemed sometimes). Now it's changed yet again, among tons of other redesigns, and I admit the idea of throwing out the 1776 foot height makes the project lose a lot of its meaning. On the other hand, we're getting a building that's still as tall as the original 1 WTC, which also had just a plain old antennae, not a spire. So I'm not sure how to feel, I just gotta let it sink in I guess.

I will say that I feel the entire project from the start has been poorly managed and handled. I'm not in the "should have rebuilt the twins" debate, but I do think that things at the site should have been handled a lot differently, and maybe all these cost-cutting redesigns might have been avoided. None of the people in charge seemed to ever care what else this site stands for besides the site of former commercial/office space.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #32127
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a number which is symbolic....how do you not understand that? 1365 is just a number, 1776 represents so much more...dont want to get into an argument though. this is just my opinion i am presenting.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #32128
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #32129
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This can't be true can it? Is it REALLY just an Antenna now?????
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:31 AM   #32130
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This can't be true can it? Is it REALLY just an Antenna now?????
it's being considered it a spire, is it not? tbh if you call this an antenna i can't see how the original design wasn't an antenna.

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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #32131
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Maybe it's because the colors are jacked up on my comp but it looks rust red to me. The sun is still up, it should be dark yellow at worst.




ITS A NUMBER
It's not just a number..are you American?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:49 AM   #32132
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****...I like the new spire design... What the hell is wrong with me?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:52 AM   #32133
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Oh my god. A ******* antenna? So damn ugly.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #32134
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It's basically just the old North Tower now, but with a twist, literally.....And I sort of like it
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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #32135
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It is a refined version of 4 Times Square's antenna. As for the "LED" lights, I'm sure they will just do the same thing they do with 4 Times Square and the Bank of America Tower's spire.

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Old May 10th, 2012, 12:55 AM   #32136
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I saw that exact same post on SSP ^
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:01 AM   #32137
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This is why they should have made a taller building instead of a taller spire/antenna. It's basically the north tower with a redesign.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:06 AM   #32138
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I saw that exact same post on SSP ^
That is because that is me on SSP also.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #32139
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THE ANTENNAE IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE THEY COMPLETELY RUINED THE TOWERS LOOK!!!!!!!!
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:08 AM   #32140
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it's being considered it a spire, is it not? tbh if you call this an antenna i can't see how the original design wasn't an antenna.
It is an antennae now- http://newyorkyimby.blogspot.com/201...-redesign.html

Guys, the height doesn't matter. Rebuilding this is making a statement to the people who destroyed it, its not about the height. Why is the spire height such a point of pride ?

Here is what a person named Christopher said on NY times,
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It saves a ton of money on construction and maintenance, so it's actually a rare smart decision by the port authority. Over time nobody is going to care about the 1776 ft or the comparison to the Willis tower. It has plenty of historical significance to be proud of, there is no reason to waste money for egos.
and I think that he couldn't be more right. Before everyone freaks out, could you please look at this with an open mind ?

The new spire looks great, very NYC.
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