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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:09 AM   #32141
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THE ANTENNAE IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE THEY COMPLETELY RUINED THE TOWERS LOOK!!!!!!!!
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:10 AM   #32142
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It is an antennae now- http://newyorkyimby.blogspot.com/201...-redesign.html

Guys, the height doesn't matter. Rebuilding this is making a statement to the people who destroyed it, its not about the height. Why is the spire height such a point of pride ?

Here is what a person named Christopher said on NY times,

and I think that he couldn't be more right. Before everyone freaks out, could you please look at this with an open mind ?

The new spire looks great, very NYC.
Maybe it saved them money but it still ruined the look
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:11 AM   #32143
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Jesus, Maria and Joseph..What have they done..
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:12 AM   #32144
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This is a total disgrace, not only to the building it self. But to the construction aswell!
No one simply makes such huge changes to a design when its so long into construction!
If they seriusly do this, the design will ruined totally imo...
And imagine having a tall block being the tallest of such an iconic city as NY?!
One WTC deserves to be the tallest! It needs to..!
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:16 AM   #32145
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No it doesn't deserve it. They ignored height in its design by making it only as tall as the North Tower so it doesn't have a right to claim the title. The title should be held by a building which has truly surpassed the Twins
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #32146
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Why didn't they think about that "wasted" money in the first place? Why they designed it that beautiful then? It's like putting the best cake ever in front of us and then after some time, taking it back and saying "you can't have it pigs"..
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #32147
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THE ANTENNAE IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE THEY COMPLETELY RUINED THE TOWERS LOOK!!!!!!!!
Exactly, I don't know why people like it and caps lock was necessary
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:21 AM   #32148
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If they keep this going I don't think anyone will be able to recognize it by the end of construction.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #32149
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No it doesn't deserve it. They ignored height in its design by making it only as tall as the North Tower so it doesn't have a right to claim the title. The title should be held by a building which has truly surpassed the Twins
Have to agree. This building is 417 meters, which is tall enough. It may not be the tallest in NYC by roof height, but it is by pinnacle.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM   #32150
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Exactly, I don't know why people like it and caps lock was really unnecessary
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:26 AM   #32151
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If they keep this going I don't think anyone will be able to recognize it by the end of construction.
It barely looks different.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:27 AM   #32152
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No it doesn't deserve it. They ignored height in its design by making it only as tall as the North Tower so it doesn't have a right to claim the title. The title should be held by a building which has truly surpassed the Twins
You are very right Kanto. But what kind of landmark is a 426m tall glassed box ruining one of the most beautiful and most well made skylines, that has not only been there for a couple of years. But since the early 20th century?
I mean, the reason why One WTC was supposed to be THE new in city landmark of NY was not because of the height. But because it, and the complex for that matter is so well made, and well fitted into the skyline. It stands tall and beautifully above the rest of the Lower Manhattan skyline, and it is an Icon to most americans, and especially New yorkers, an icon of in some way triumph after loss, winning the battle. Standing strong and not giving up! But with the new antenna. much of that pride and honor will be taken away.(IMO that is).
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:36 AM   #32153
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Hello "the crazy swede is here"

I seen that it is going to be one big change on the top of the 1wtc? I have read much about the discussion and I agree much to what Kanto is saying, then new design on top of the wtc is beautiful, much more futuristic in my eyes. One question is will it be in the same height? or will it be less or more?.

Ohh one more thing can one of you experts tell me what the difference are between a spire, mast and antennae, and whats counts as a part of the building structure and whats don't

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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:37 AM   #32154
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Honestly, I'm still pissed off about the base rather than the antenna.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:39 AM   #32155
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And sadly this tower will be surpassed by that stupid stick rising in midtown.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 01:42 AM   #32156
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Hello "the crazy swede is here"

I seen that it is going to be one big change on the top of the 1wtc? I have read much about the discussion and I agree much to what Kanto is saying, then new design on top of the wtc is beautiful, much more futuristic in my eyes. One question is will it be in the same height? or will it be less or more?.

Ohh one more thing can one of you experts tell me what the difference are between a spire, mast and antennae, and whats counts as a part of the building structure and whats don't

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Read this for the height and so:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...a-redesign/?hp


And for the Antenna, Spire and roof heigth question.
If a building is 300m tall and fitted with a 50m spire. The buildings official height will be 350m. Though. If the same building is fitted with and antenna instead of a spire, then the official height will be 300m. So only the spire counts as a part of the building. At least that is how I learned it
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Old May 10th, 2012, 02:02 AM   #32157
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Here is the way I see it:

There is no way the new design for the mast should be counted in the official height. Otherwise, you might as well count the antenna height for the ESB, Willis Tower, 4 Times Square, etc.

Taken into account that the building should be measured from the lowest open-air pedestrian entance, which is actually 5' 8" lower than where they took the 1776' measurement from, the real height figures should now be:

Height to tip of antenna: 1797.67'/547.93m
Height to top of parapet (official height?): 1373.67'/418.7m
Height to highest occupied floor: 1274'/388.32m

Just my 2 cents for now. It will be interesting to see what the powers to be are going to come up with next!
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Old May 10th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #32158
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Why didn't they think about that "wasted" money in the first place? Why they designed it that beautiful then? It's like putting the best cake ever in front of us and then after some time, taking it back and saying "you can't have it pigs"..
AGREED
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And sadly this tower will be surpassed by that stupid stick rising in midtown.
WHAT stick?
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