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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:27 AM   #32201
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1,374 doesn't have much of a ring to it.

A thread title change seems to be in order. LOL.
True, well we can say that it's roof height is higher then the old WTC.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:28 AM   #32202
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in September, the Science Channel had a series on the reconstruction. They showed scenes form inside the management office. Posted to the wall was a render...with that very same antenna design. So it looks like they were planning this months ago.
The antenna structure was always there, just decided to remove the radome enclosure. There was never a redesign, nor a modification of the antenna.

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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:30 AM   #32203
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I'm sorry but I am SO upset about this whole entire spire/antenna issue. I'm a new Yorker and this situation is making me lose faith in my city as a whole, how can this happen with out the publics approval? We were promised a 1776 tower and now it's just shit....so sad...so f***ing sad
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:32 AM   #32204
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Actually I think the 1374 is just the top of the parapet... which isn't the roof, the roof will be below that. I do hope the beacon will still be on top.

Oh well... sucks that it will not be 1776 feet anymore, guess we have to look forward to 432 Park being the tallest building in the city, since antenna's don't count in official height, it would be.

Maybe 225 57th Street will surprise us and go bigger.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:36 AM   #32205
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Everything is possible I belive

Okay the noise after the HVAC units may be a problem but how did they do it in the twins and if their would be a plan to do so how noisy would it be up there?
Because the old twins didn't have the HVAC equipment up there.

And I love how Otie showed us the "new" spire/antenna months ago. You should e-mail Durst with your render, Otie, and see what they have to say. As you said all they did was remove the antenna's enclosure.

Spire my arse.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:48 AM   #32206
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HA! I FOUND IT!!

http://skyscrapercenter.com/new-york...ade-center/98/


Height: Architectural

418.7 meter / 1374 feet



Height: Occupied

388.3 meter / 1274 feet


Height: Observatory

388.3 meter / 1274 feet
Hmm, the height of the 102nd floor is or was 1,266' 8". If you count the 4-5' column splice you should get the 1,271 feet tall height the PA and the media have been spouting about the tower's current height.

If we're now adding 5' 8" to the PA's original floor/elevation heights. Shouldn't the 102nd (highest occupied floor) be 1,272' 4" ?

If the parapet is now 1,373' 8" thanks to an increase of 5' 8". 1,272 would seem to be the correct height of the 102nd floor. Am I missing something Vito/Fury/Otie/ anyone else?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:57 AM   #32207
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I am so angry right about this news i am in a lost for words.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:59 AM   #32208
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I will be so pissed off if they stick a plain old antenna up there!!! ARRRGGGHHHH
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:04 AM   #32209
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I'm sorry but I am SO upset about this whole entire spire/antenna issue. I'm a new Yorker and this situation is making me lose faith in my city as a whole, how can this happen with out the publics approval? We were promised a 1776 tower and now it's just shit....so sad...so f***ing sad
You were promised a 1368 foot building, with a spire that reaches 1776 feet, and thats basically what you got, only now it's an antennae that reaches 1776 feet.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:10 AM   #32210
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I'm sick now, those Durst bastards ruined NY's skyline.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:10 AM   #32211
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I am done with 1 wtc see you guys at 432 park ave forum.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:12 AM   #32212
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They change the spire, and now you all suddenly hate this building ? Come on guys... don't tell me you got that caught up in the 1776 height...
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:15 AM   #32213
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They change the spire, and now you all suddenly hate this building ? Come on guys... don't tell me you got that caught up in the 1776 height...
The old spire basically made the building, this new one is HIDEOUS
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:16 AM   #32214
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@iloveclassicrock7 exactly. It's unfortunate as far as titles go, but other than that. Nothing has changed. Why is everyone calling this a drastic design change. The look is hardly different. Admit it, your calling it ugly now only because of the title and not appearance.

Anyways using 40 story spires on top of buildings to gain height imop is stupid. If they wanted a 1776 ft building then they should of just made one. So to me, un cladding the antenna isn't a "drastic" change. The skyline will not be affected people, quit whining.

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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:31 AM   #32215
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@iloveclassicrock7 exactly. It's unfortunate as far as titles go, but other than that. Nothing has changed. Why is everyone calling this a drastic design change. The look is hardly different.

Using 40 story spires on top of buildings to gain height imop is stupid. If they wanted a 1776 ft building then they should of just made one. So to me, un cladding the antenna isn't a "drastic" change. The skyline will not be affected.
Thank you. I agree that people have a right to dislike the new antennae, but people shouldn't be upset because of them not counting the antennae.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #32216
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The only hope i see now is to wait on the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat ruling by making 1 wtc 1,368 and, hoping by their decision Will cause and national out cry so that durst will look at SOM alternative plans.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #32217
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The only hope i see now is to wait on the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat ruling by making 1 wtc 1,368 and, hoping by their decision Will cause and national out cry so that durst will look at SOM alternative plans.
Why do you care so much about the 1776 height ?
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@iloveclassicrock7 exactly. It's unfortunate as far as titles go, but other than that. Nothing has changed. Why is everyone calling this a drastic design change. The look is hardly different. Admit it, your calling it ugly now only because of the title and not appearance.

Anyways using 40 story spires on top of buildings to gain height imop is stupid. If they wanted a 1776 ft building then they should of just made one. So to me, un cladding the antenna isn't a "drastic" change. The skyline will not be affected people, quit whining.
No, everyone is complaining about the appearance, look at this picture. The left looks fine, the right looks worse than rotten garbage.

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Why do you care so much about the 1776 height ?
Because the whole F***ing purpose of 1 wtc was to be the tallest building in the western hemisphere that's why i care .
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Old May 10th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #32220
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Because the whole F***ing purpose of 1 wtc was to be the tallest building in the western hemisphere that's why i care .
NO, the whole F***ing purpose was to show the world that we can come back from devastation stronger then ever, and to restore the skyline.
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