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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #32481
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Not sure if it was posted before (too lazy to look back), but even if so, this one deserves to be reposted

From: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...e_moon_of.html
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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #32482
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I don't think the architects were pleased at all with the new mast. The contractor's to blame for this. They really should find a way to stick to the plan and finish without compromises.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #32483
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Nice! A little life on this thread. "OMG, it's tall" gets a little boring, lol.

I hate the height cheating but it is what it is. The original antennae (I will not dignify it by calling it a spire) was hideous and the copper one is equally hideous. The building would look far better without either one IMO.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #32484
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This project has been such a joke since the search for a design first began.

Maybe this is an appropriate representation of America as it is now, a mess of poor compromises while failing to meet any of the original goals.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #32485
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Amazing how, in all the pics, there is an unpleasant "void" where the old Twin Towers used to be. The new buildings frame this void beautifully, like an answer to the violence the city has suffered.

(man, I'm inspired!)
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:16 PM   #32486
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Can't wait till Condemn Nasty's big vent for their kitchen utilities "surprises" us. It's probably going to be a huge black hole facing the memorial so visitors know where the crew is cooking.

Keep it up Durst and PA, I want to see more redesigns! The tower is still too beautiful for my taste, I'm sure you can find a way to make it uglier! After all that's your job, isn't it?
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:29 PM   #32487
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I almost forgot: Trump is 360m roof and 423m spire, which counts. Poor 1WTC!
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #32488
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I think they're still working to make the building 1776 feet officially.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #32489
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JEDDAH | Kingdom Tower | 1007m
NEW YORK | One World Trade Center (1WTC) | 419m
New York speaks for itself, but I don't know where Jeddah is (and probably still won't even if this tower gets built)...
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:10 PM   #32490
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Can people not read or something?


"Eliminating this integral part of the building’s design and leaving an exposed antenna and equipment is unfortunate. We stand ready to work with the port on an alternate design that will still mark the One World Trade Center’s place in New York City’s skyline,”

-David Childs
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #32491
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"Eliminating this integral part of the building’s design and leaving an exposed antenna and equipment is unfortunate. We stand ready to work with the port on an alternate design that will still mark the One World Trade Center’s place in New York City’s skyline,”

-David Childs
Yeah right, what alternative design?

they r gonna start construction on the antenna in 3 months....u mean they r gonna come with an alternative design in that time frame, and then test it out, and get the materials ready to be assembled on the top of the building....

get real....

they r gonna put up that ugly spire and ruin this building for generations to come...

people 50 years from now will make documentaries on how dysfunctional this whole construction process was
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #32492
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"Eliminating this integral part of the building’s design and leaving an exposed antenna and equipment is unfortunate. We stand ready to work with the port on an alternate design that will still mark the One World Trade Center’s place in New York City’s skyline,”

-David Childs
That's what I was referring to also...this whole thing is so confusing that you can't even believe a single source
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #32493
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Curious...does this new "antenna" have the same design or structure, internally/frame-wise, as the original spire, except that they are just leaving out and not installing the "shell covering"?

If so, then wouldn't it be possible to "add" that shell covering, maybe in the future or if they even ever wanted to, around the new antenna frame??

It would be nice if the new antenna frame was the same, or similar, to the original spire's frame...for any possible, easy and quick changes in the future.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #32494
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As I've stated before, there's NO new design of the spire or whatever you want to call it. What we're seeing on the newer renderings is the same mast they designed back in ~2008, only main difference is the lack of an enclosure.

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If so, then wouldn't it be possible to "add" that shell covering, maybe in the future or if they even ever wanted to, around the new antenna frame??
Main problem is once antenna equipment is working up there, they'll not be able to shut down everything for a long period of time in order to install the radome enclosure.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #32495
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Yeah right, what alternative design?

they r gonna start construction on the antenna in 3 months....u mean they r gonna come with an alternative design in that time frame, and then test it out, and get the materials ready to be assembled on the top of the building....

get real....

they r gonna put up that ugly spire and ruin this building for generations to come...

people 50 years from now will make documentaries on how dysfunctional this whole construction process was
Childs did design the building, he does have a say, and 3 months is certainly enough time to do something, and it could be delayed even longer.

I just can't imagine he will let this slide, he has already stated his extreme dissapointment and desire to do something about it.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:39 PM   #32496
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Childs has no authority over the building. It doesn't belong to him, he only designed it
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #32497
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https://www.schumer.senate.gov/Conta...tact_chuck.cfm

There is the link to Senator Chuck Schumer's email..I sent him a detailed email about the concerns about the spire re-design. I am not a resident of New York, but I emphasized the aesthetic aspects, and how the spire as intended by SOM should be maintained because of the importance of the site and prominence of 1WTC...Anyone else who wishes to write the Senator, just please be respectful and do not use any profanity.

[email protected]

And there is Durst's contact email. I sent them one as well, anyone else who wishes to do so, remember to make your points but do so in a respectful manner, not using any profanity. It's a small hope, but worth a try.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:23 AM   #32498
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Don't you guys have jobs? Who cares about an antenna.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:31 AM   #32499
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Maybe if you cared about this tower let alone live in NYC you would care.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #32500
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Depends on weather conditions, concrete on deck is 8 floors below steel erection, so the rooftop slab should be poured 2 months after the perimeter structure reaches the roof. Mast erection is scheduled to begin in this summer.
I checked the recent update from today on the PA website, and it says the concrete is only 5 floors behind at 93
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