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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:38 AM   #32521
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I'm glad to see the images of construction flow back into the thread. I'm tired about the antenna/spire talk. Let's move on shall we? Let's all be happy that we still have a beautiful building in the works than not having any at all.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:44 AM   #32522
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I'm one of the people who doesn't mind the new antenna. I liked the old spire design, and I like the design of the new antenna. It SCREAMS New York City in my opinion. If the new antenna design was the design from the start most of the people bitching about the change would love it. As to the height being lowered, I personally couldn't care less, especially about the arbitrary 1776 ft figure. 1WTC is still the same height in my mind. How about we wait until the antenna is completed and can gauge how it interacts with the rest of 1WTC and the New York skyline before calling the redesign a 'national disgrace'?

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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:49 AM   #32523
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How about we wait until the antenna is completed and can gauge how it interacts with 1WTC and the New York skyline before calling the redesign a 'national disgrace'?
I couldn't agree more. It could actually look great in real life. And anyways, if the design could change once, who says it won't change anymore?

They could come up with a design that is low in cost which could possibly look much better than what we have seen before. We just need to wait to see how the history in the making takes its course.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:31 AM   #32524
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People, STOP talking about the antenna! Seriously it's so annoying after like 15 pages. The best thing we can do is wait & see
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:32 AM   #32525
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I'm one of the people who doesn't mind the new antenna. I liked the old spire design, and I like the design of the new antenna. It SCREAMS New York City in my opinion. If the new antenna design was the design from the start most of the people bitching about the change would love it. As to the height being lowered, I personally couldn't care less, especially about the arbitrary 1776 ft figure. 1WTC is still the same height in my mind. How about we wait until the antenna is completed and can gauge how it interacts with the rest of 1WTC and the New York skyline before calling the redesign a 'national disgrace'?

Love those long distance shots NewYorkSkyline117.
Exactly. The height never changed. It is still 1776 feet or so to the pinnacle. You guys act like the CTBUH is your leader. They aren't, no one appointed them but themselves. There are several different sources you can follow, there is no definitive source. There are clear cut facts, the spire and antennae debate is subjective, and nothing to go by. Here are the clear cut things to go by. Pinnacle, Top floor, roof. WTC wins pinnacle, Sears tower wins roof and top floor. Does that make Sears the tallest in America. No. It only means that it one certain categories, and WTC won a certain category. It's not about who wins the most categories, it just means that they both are tallest in their winning categories. You don't have to be subjective, and decide what is what based on opinion. You should always say that Sears and WTC share the title of America's tallest building, because they both win in some of the categories.

Sorry if that sounded complicated, but if you understand it, it's very clear cut, which is what we need.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:51 AM   #32526
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:08 AM   #32527
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My god this forum flew in pages .
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:24 AM   #32528
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #32529
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Can we just all wait and see what it looks like until its finished this is probably one of the many changes in the spire that they will make from now until completion and lets get back to progress pictures!!!!!!
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:29 AM   #32530
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I'm one of the people who doesn't mind the new antenna. I liked the old spire design, and I like the design of the new antenna. It SCREAMS New York City in my opinion. If the new antenna design was the design from the start most of the people bitching about the change would love it. As to the height being lowered, I personally couldn't care less, especially about the arbitrary 1776 ft figure. 1WTC is still the same height in my mind. How about we wait until the antenna is completed and can gauge how it interacts with the rest of 1WTC and the New York skyline before calling the redesign a 'national disgrace'?

Love those long distance shots NewYorkSkyline117.
can't believe I'm saying this but i agree
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #32531
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people are upset about the spire ordeal and everyone has an opinion about it so deal with it, it is an extremely integral part of 1 wtc and it should be discussed, so I understand why this conversation has lasted so long....no one gives a shit about floor count or pictures anymore, they are upset because this building turned to shit.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:41 AM   #32532
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My. God.
What have they done?
The old spire wasn't perfect, but at least it fit in with the building. with the new mosquito net spire, from a distance the spire will be near invisible and 1WTC will look like a 420m stump!
The cost cutting measures are getting ridiculous...
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #32533
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #32534
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Terrible!
I liked the old spire, this one is disguisting
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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:47 PM   #32535
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Exactly. The height never changed. It is still 1776 feet or so to the pinnacle. You guys act like the CTBUH is your leader. They aren't, no one appointed them but themselves. There are several different sources you can follow, there is no definitive source. There are clear cut facts, the spire and antennae debate is subjective, and nothing to go by. Here are the clear cut things to go by. Pinnacle, Top floor, roof. WTC wins pinnacle, Sears tower wins roof and top floor. Does that make Sears the tallest in America. No. It only means that it one certain categories, and WTC won a certain category. It's not about who wins the most categories, it just means that they both are tallest in their winning categories. You don't have to be subjective, and decide what is what based on opinion. You should always say that Sears and WTC share the title of America's tallest building, because they both win in some of the categories.

Sorry if that sounded complicated, but if you understand it, it's very clear cut, which is what we need.
Very well said. I 1000% agree with you

Btw, time for some new pics

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Freedom Tower by dubstepify, on Flickr

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Freedom Tower NYC by Cran Burry (Matthew Nedbalsky), on Flickr

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Freedom Tower by jimforest, on Flickr

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Irish Hunger Memorial, World Trade Center by Scoboco, on Flickr
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Old May 12th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #32536
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JEDDAH | Kingdom Tower | 1007m
NEW YORK | One World Trade Center (1WTC) | 419m
If they built a 1007m tower in NYC it would look awful!

I would much rather they build to the heights that would make the skyline look the best, and the most elegant, like they do in NYC at the moment, rather than trying to build as tall as possible!

NYC has nothing to prove in terms of skyscrapers, these middle eastern cities will never be as great as New York no matter how many 1000m + skyscrapers they build!
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Old May 12th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #32537
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its been exactly 3 years since i have been to NYC and I'm desperate to go back!

Anyway, here is a few pics of mine to show how much progress since!









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I REALLY don't understand that...elevator...? on the west side of the tower. It goes up 20 or so stories, and just stops, and the cladding above it is still unfilled. Anybody know what it is?
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I REALLY don't understand that...elevator...? on the west side of the tower. It goes up 20 or so stories, and just stops, and the cladding above it is still unfilled. Anybody know what it is?
The cladding has not been installed BECAUSE the elevator will be/has been there. It will of course be filled in when upper levels have been completed internally most likely.
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Maybe they established a kind of temporary skylobby on the floor at which that elevator ends
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