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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #32541
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Exactly. The height never changed. It is still 1776 feet or so to the pinnacle. You guys act like the CTBUH is your leader. They aren't, no one appointed them but themselves. There are several different sources you can follow, there is no definitive source. There are clear cut facts, the spire and antennae debate is subjective, and nothing to go by. Here are the clear cut things to go by. Pinnacle, Top floor, roof. WTC wins pinnacle, Sears tower wins roof and top floor. Does that make Sears the tallest in America. No. It only means that it one certain categories, and WTC won a certain category. It's not about who wins the most categories, it just means that they both are tallest in their winning categories. You don't have to be subjective, and decide what is what based on opinion. You should always say that Sears and WTC share the title of America's tallest building, because they both win in some of the categories.

Sorry if that sounded complicated, but if you understand it, it's very clear cut, which is what we need.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #32542
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Can we please stop talking about the new spire design? Just get over it already.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #32543
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Can we please stop talking about the new spire design? Just get over it already.
I hate the new spire (antenna) design, it's ugly.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 06:48 PM   #32544
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #32545
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #32546
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How can they place spire to the top? Will they use helicopter for placing whole spire or put parts of spire together ?
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #32547
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They will assemble it in parts, like any other spire.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #32548
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How can they place spire to the top? Will they use helicopter for placing whole spire or put parts of spire together ?
It depends. They used a helicopter for Trump International Chicago.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:51 PM   #32549
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I've showed the new antenna to my friends. None of them liked it at all!
That's very sad,they should keep the original spire!
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #32550
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It depends. They used a helicopter for Trump International Chicago.
Trump's spire is extremely thin, thinner than 1WTC's new one, so I think they will assemble it in parts Though I could be wrong of course
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #32551
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Never liked the original antenna so to me hardly matters. The whole building is uninspiring and a bit of an embarassment. Hoping that WTC2 gets built soon.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:01 PM   #32552
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #32553
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Never liked the original antenna so to me hardly matters. The whole building is uninspiring and a bit of an embarassment. Hoping that WTC2 gets built soon.
As if 2 WTC is going to be somehow more "inspiring"? Its footprint looks like a coffin, I guess that just screams inspiration.

I'm not sure how you can say 1 WTC is an embarassment.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #32554
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Trump's spire is extremely thin, thinner than 1WTC's new one, so I think they will assemble it in parts Though I could be wrong of course
I still wonder how Trump's antenna can be counted... even the ESB is clearly taller than Trump, let alone 1WTC. But thanks to the CTBUH Trump is going to remain as the second tallest skyscraper in the U.S. with a roof height of 360m.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #32555
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:29 PM   #32556
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Will the new 1wtc antenna be considered a spire?
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #32557
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #32558
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I still wonder how Trump's antenna can be counted... even the ESB is clearly taller than Trump, let alone 1WTC. But thanks to the CTBUH Trump is going to remain as the second tallest skyscraper in the U.S. with a roof height of 360m.
Because it's a spire and builds into the design.

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That is the exact same case when comparing 1 WTC and the Sears. The Sears tower has a roof that is clearly 25 meters taller then 1 WTC just like ESB to Trump. Trump's spire has a setback design that makes it look like an architectural part of the building, and is every bit as deserving as 1 WTC and its original spire. But I go by pinnacle and roof. So Pinnacle wise, 1 WTC wins like it should, and by roof, Sears tower wins like it should. Like I said earlier, each one wins certain categories, and they both share the title as America's tallest, and that is fact.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #32559
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Is it me or is there new steel going up?
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #32560
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People need to stop getting hyped about this, the building will still officially be 1776 feet once something is worked out,

check the skyscraperpage thread.
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