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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:55 PM   #32561
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People need to stop getting hyped about this, the building will still officially be 1776 feet once something is worked out,

check the skyscraperpage thread.
Dude, who cares what the CTBUH uses as official height ? They aren't the only source to follow, their are other groups like CTBUH that are just less known. It doesn't mean that CTBUH is the only thing to listen too. There will always be clear cut facts. The Sears will ALWAYS have a higher roof then 1 WTC, and 1 WTC will ALWAYS have a higher pinnacle. They are both height measurements that are equally important. Therefore, they share the title of America's tallest, until a building comes along that has a higher roof and pinnacle then both buildings.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #32562
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:45 PM   #32563
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stop talking about the stupid antenna it's old news now.. please back to pictures
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #32564
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Sorry man, there are things that you cannot control, like what people think this tower looks like (visually) through the construction project. If you can't stand the spire comments, just ignore them, people will go on soon, but this forum clearly accepts opinions as long as they're not offensive.

After seeing the charts of the old and new spires posted by someone, this is my take:

The old spire was imposing by itself even on top of that huge building... the new one looks weak and thin, and stands hardly visible on top of the huge building, and plus it can't be seen from very far because of its meshed appearance.

We were promised gold, we've been given scraps.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #32565
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Sorry man, there are things that you cannot control, like what people think this tower looks like (visually) through the construction project. If you can't stand the spire comments, just ignore them, people will go on soon, but this forum clearly accepts opinions as long as they're not offensive.

After seeing the charts of the old and new spires posted by someone, this is my take:

The old spire was imposing by itself even on top of that huge building... the new one looks weak and thin, and stands hardly visible on top of the huge building, and plus it can't be seen from very far because of its meshed appearance.

We were promised gold, we've been given scraps.
No I don't have a problem with people's opinions, it's just its been nearly 20 pages of the same comments over and over and over again. Seriously, it's constant complaining when people don't even realize that they just have to wait and see.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #32566
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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:04 AM   #32567
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thanks lol.....btw new steel went up today, but for some reason they took it down..they did this repeatedly 5 times. It's very odd but the user CarlosV took photos of the happening over at SSP
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Old May 13th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #32568
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Floor area comparisons for New WTC buildings to the original WTC and a few other ones:

1 WTC - 3,500,000 sq ft (325,000 sq m)
2 WTC - 3,121,000 sq ft (290,000 sq m)
3 WTC - 2,798,000 sq ft (260,000 sq m)
4 WTC - 2,540,000 sq ft (236,000 sq m)
7 WTC - 1,681,118 sq ft (156,181 sq m)

Original WTC Towers - 2,260,000 sq ft (210,000 sq m) each
Original 7 WTC - 1,868,000 sq ft (170,000 sq m)
Empire State Building - 2,766,000 sq ft (257,000 sq m)
55 Water Street - 3,498,000 sq ft (325,000 sq m)
233 South Wacker Drive, Chicago - 4,477,800 sq ft (416,000 sq m)

(In case I'm wrong about the floor area estimates, they probably haven't been finalised yet.)
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Old May 13th, 2012, 02:23 AM   #32569
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Old May 13th, 2012, 02:59 AM   #32570
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How can they place spire to the top? Will they use helicopter for placing whole spire or put parts of spire together ?
They'll be shipped by boat and erected by sections.

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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #32571
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They'll be shipped by boat and erected by sections.

Photo posted by HomeWorld at reddit.com

oh my god is that how thick one section of the antenna is?
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:05 AM   #32572
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That's either section 2 or 3. Section 1 is even thicker (18 feet)
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #32573
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That's either section 2 or 3. Section 1 is even thicker (18 feet)
How much thicker is it compared to the one on the Empire State Building
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:43 AM   #32574
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They'll be shipped by boat and erected by sections.

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Damn that is enormous. I knew it would be huge but seeing it up close in the flesh like that makes it seem gargantuan! So that whole thing is one section of the antenna? That looks like it will dwarf the old North Tower antenna. Is the section in this picture how it will look without the enclosure as intended by Durst? Great picture..
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:47 AM   #32575
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Floor area comparisons for New WTC buildings to the original WTC and a few other ones:

1 WTC - 3,500,000 sq ft (325,000 sq m)
2 WTC - 3,121,000 sq ft (290,000 sq m)
3 WTC - 2,798,000 sq ft (260,000 sq m)
4 WTC - 2,540,000 sq ft (236,000 sq m)
7 WTC - 1,681,118 sq ft (156,181 sq m)

Original WTC Towers - 2,260,000 sq ft (210,000 sq m) each

This can't possibly be right. The reason that they are building 4 new skyscrapers to replace the original two is because the Twins were massive and were simply 110 floors of 200x200ft. All of the new buildings have designs that couldn't possibly allow that much space given their height.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:48 AM   #32576
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Skyline117 how did you obtain those pictures? It is big and of course like the original plans with a shell even thicker. Do you have any other pictures of the other sections? Any clue on the paint scheme? Also I thought 1WTC originally had 108 floors. The original twins had 2 more stories did we lose those floors on this tower because of mechanical floors?
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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:20 AM   #32577
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Skyline117 how did you obtain those pictures? It is big and of course like the original plans with a shell even thicker. Do you have any other pictures of the other sections? Any clue on the paint scheme? Also I thought 1WTC originally had 108 floors. The original twins had 2 more stories did we lose those floors on this tower because of mechanical floors?
I didn't post them, Otie did. there's a link to this website that has pics of the mast behind the scenes i guess you could say- http://www.adfgroup.com/projets/edifices/highrises.html
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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #32578
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That looks thicker than the North Tower antenna, and it itself was pretty thick.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:36 AM   #32579
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I hope this antenna is thicker than it looks
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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:45 AM   #32580
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Im sorry but you sound like spoiled children... they are changing the spire to an antennae, not changing the whole building. Just a minor adjustment, yet now you act like the whole building is a disgrace ? That's a major exaggeration in my opinion.

One World Trade with an antennae is like having a model with a bikini body but a down syndrome face.
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