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Old May 13th, 2012, 04:56 AM   #32581
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That's an awful thing to say, let alone a very stupid analogy
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Old May 13th, 2012, 05:10 AM   #32582
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I'm no engineer and look at any structure more from a personal asthetics point of view. Looking at the open web spire/antenna proposal I wonder how heavy winter conditions may affect this type of structure. If it ices up over a period of time then packs snow or ice around and inside the void wont the additional weight add conciderable engineering stress to the antenna ? I expect wind load and maybe the conditions I mention are all taken into account but just wondered that's all ?
.............and if so the size and design should be good enough to do away this those guy wires. It seems a bit cheapo to design a tower then say it's not strong enough to stand on it's own. The original WTC 1 antenna also had guy wires yet the ESB and buildings like Willis Tower and John Hancock in Chicago just made their's strong enough to be freestanding........just beef up the roof mount area I reckon.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 05:39 AM   #32583
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Obviously it was safe enough to maintain the North Tower antenna......



I found out this antenna will be a good amount thicker than the one on the Sears which is good
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Old May 13th, 2012, 05:42 AM   #32584
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Old May 13th, 2012, 05:46 AM   #32585
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:05 AM   #32586
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So the symbolism of 1,776ft got tossed in the trash. How disappointing
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Oh look, a comment about the new spire design, we definitely needed more of those.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:34 AM   #32588
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In that case, glad to help
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:41 AM   #32589
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:21 AM   #32590
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I think it's you who can't detect the sarcasm my friend
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:40 AM   #32591
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:48 AM   #32592
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I REALLY don't understand that...elevator...? on the west side of the tower. It goes up 20 or so stories, and just stops, and the cladding above it is still unfilled. Anybody know what it is?
Each panel needs the lower one to properly fit, once construction is finished hoisting elevators will be taken down and the gap will be filled from the bottom to the top.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #32593
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Old May 13th, 2012, 10:49 AM   #32594
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It was so beautiful!
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Old May 13th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #32595
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Great post.

My argument is that neither spire nor antenna,that does not form a spontaneous structure from ground up.Does not qualify for height advantage.

As seen with Burj Khalifa and soon to be Kingdom Tower.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 11:18 AM   #32596
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i hope they not change the original spire design.. It's already a signature for tower one it self
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Old May 13th, 2012, 11:36 AM   #32597
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The tower isn't really original to start off with. The only thing that was original about it was the massive spire at the top. probably one of the best spires i've seen out there. Now that they have changed it, I can't find any originality out of it.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #32598
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I guess they'll have to change the logo as well. I really hope all these negative comments about the new "design" make them change their plans and stick to the original.

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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #32599
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The tower isn't really original to start off with. The only thing that was original about it was the massive spire at the top. probably one of the best spires i've seen out there. Now that they have changed it, I can't find any originality out of it.
It looks original to me. What other skyscraper is this design imitating?
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Old May 13th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #32600
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I hope the next thing they'll remove is that hideous ring, although without the dishes on it it looked kinda less hideous.
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