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Old May 14th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #32681
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1,293 feet!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 14th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #32682
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Nope, 10 feet more because of the 4 feet column splices and the additional 6 feet compared to older information (older 1368 feet, newer 1374 feet)
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #32683
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Topping out could be before the end of May ahead of schedule....
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #32684
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Yay! new steel! What floor are we on now?
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:57 PM   #32685
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #32686
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How the PA calls their antenna is unimportant. It announced that the spire is definitely scrapped and there will definitely be the antenna we see on the new renders, end of story. The thread title should remain 1374/419 cause that is what we are getting

It was stated several times that a plan may be worked out among Childs/ The PA and Durst to fix the spire so it will still count.

It's not definite but people need to hold their horses.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #32687
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It was stated several times that a plan may be worked out among Childs/ The PA and Durst to fix the spire so it will still count.

It's not definite but people need to hold their horses.
There was one article that mentioned that, but in a later WSJ article, Durst said their was no compromising, and everything is said and done.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...619775032.html -

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Asked whether architects could find a compromise design, Mr. Durst demurred. The scaled-down top, he said, "is going to be mounted on the building over the summer. There's no way to do anything at this point."
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #32688
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other sources have said differently, Childs himself said he would work on a plan to change it.

I'm just not losing all hope, I may very well be wrong, but people are jumping to conlusions very quickly.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:10 PM   #32689
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other sources have said differently, Childs himself said he would work on a plan to change it.

I'm just not losing all hope, I may very well be wrong, but people are jumping to conlusions very quickly.
I can understand trying to keep hope, but in this situation I have to be a realist. The article you are talking about, is the one that was copied through several media sources. There were a few later articles that weren't copies of that, which were the WSJ articles, NYNIMBY, and a few more.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #32690
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The way I see it, is that the PA promised 1776 feet, and they want to keep that promise, as does Childs, I have a feeling sh*t is about to hit the fan between them, there is already huge public dissapointment and anger over Durst's decision.

A compromise can be made
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:18 PM   #32691
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What Childs wants doesn't matter because he has no say in the construction effort and there is no way the PA would make it again a spire because of the horrendous amount of money it claims maintenance would cost. The antenna is what we're getting
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #32692
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Even though Durst would sell his own grandmother to rush this horrible decision through, one cannot deny the fact that it's the Durst Organisation which will receive a bad image and will publicly be labelled as the bad boy here. So if Mr. Durst is a smart man he should tread carefully for his own good.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:40 PM   #32693
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The way I see it, is that the PA promised 1776 feet, and they want to keep that promise, as does Childs, I have a feeling sh*t is about to hit the fan between them, there is already huge public dissapointment and anger over Durst's decision.

A compromise can be made
After seeing a large render of the new antennae, I prefer the old spire. But, I have come to terms with reality, and the new antennae is a done deal. Durst controls this, and he doesn't care about people on a skyscraper forum, or a symbolic number if you go by CTBUH standards, and doesn't care about bragging rights. All he cares about is money, and the PA has approved the change.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #32694
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Lol, should've made the roof height 1776ft to begin with :p
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #32695
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Can't wait till Condemn Nasty's big vent for their kitchen utilities "surprises" us. It's probably going to be a huge black hole facing the memorial so visitors know where the crew is cooking.
yeah, stick it to those Prada-wearing devils!
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #32696
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Hi all, I emailed Jordan Barowitz of Durst last week and mentioned some of the concerns about the spire change...Here was his brief response:

"Unfortunately the protocol we were provided to repair and service the cladding on the spire was logistically impossible and dangerous."--Jordan Barowitz


So I guess we had better learn to love the new antenna *sigh* unless Childs can pull a rabbit out of a hat..

On a more optimistic note, I am thrilled to see the roof so close to topping out!!
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:24 AM   #32697
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Why don't they just put cheaper, less "dangerous" cladding on top? Dangerous my ass, they just want an excuse to not pay extra.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #32698
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This would have been the first antenna in a spire, no other building has something like that, so when they say it's not possible, I believe them
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #32699
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Their is no compromising with the original design that does not mean and alternate design can be man, their is no wrong on giving on hope that child's will come out with a new design that will compromise both durst and SOM .
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Old May 15th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #32700
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My problem with all this impossible and dangerous crap about repairing the spire is, when they drew the building back in 05-06 and even started construction, they didn't think of that. They wait till the building is near top off to conclude all of that. It's just another excuse for cheapness. That's like apple making another iphone and near the end to completion, they decide to go with plastic because glass & mental don't mix. LOL!! Anyways, it seems like its a done deal, we all just gotta adjust to it.*
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