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Old December 4th, 2007, 06:13 AM   #3341
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As it has been stated many times, once the tower has reached street level, pace will really pick up. The foundation and basement floors from the FT are more complex than for a normal building. Plus you throw in everything else that has happened with the site (i.e. design, redesign, bureaucracy), now that there is actual visual progress going on, you'd think these types of posts would come to an end...silly me. oh, and you ruined my avatar with that post!

Maybe I missed a memo or two but did they ever start working 24/7 at the WTC site, or was that idea shot down?
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Old December 4th, 2007, 07:26 AM   #3342
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Well I think it's something like 20/7 work. There's always something going on. The PA has to complete the slurry walls by the last day of December or they get fined for being late. Towers 3 and 4 start up on Jan 2, and in June, 99 Church Street and Tower 2 will start up, which is when Freedom Tower will start to rise as fast as we are seeing the GS Tower go up. By 2009, I bet that most of the base will be completed.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 02:38 PM   #3343
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According to info posted here not too long ago, the bathtub on the east side of Ground Zero was supposed to be completed.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:52 AM   #3344
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It seems like the formwork for the southern core has been moved up. Not sure but that is what it looks like.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #3345
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gee how can you work in such conditions? we hate it here in sydney when it gets to 12C.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:26 AM   #3346
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It seems like the formwork for the southern core has been moved up. Not sure but that is what it looks like.


Yeah, I strongly believe that it HAS started to rise! I've come to realise that a building of this magnetude has to be carefully undertaken, which means that it might seem slow at times.

But they all have to try to remember that as loong as the core is not high enough, then the steel frame won't start being put up, since the core helps to bear the weight of the whole thing.


Culwulla, yeah. One of the most brutal times of the year to be working outside in construction.

Which is why if I EVER get another job, it won't be outside if I can help it!
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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:14 AM   #3347
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The amount of rebar going into the core is ridiculous. I guess you can say its very comparable to an early set back (first or second) for the trump tower. All you have to do is look at the webcam and just see all that rebar sticking out (and they still have a ways to go before they rebar the 2nd floor for the core).

I am very sure the amount of rebar has to do with the fact that the PATH keeps the core from being square on the first floor.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:42 AM   #3348
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You mean the lowest floor? About 30 feet below grade?
Because the core isn't distorted on the first floor (street level), according to the floor plans I've seen.




^They'll be building that in June.

From what I understand, that meter-plus thick wall of concrete around the base only rises about 20 or 50 feet high to prevent *******s from driving a truck bomb into the core, but there's also a lot of those small pillars that prevent vehicles from getting close to the building.
Sticking up from the wall will be massive columns, and we'll always be able to see them, even after the tower's completed. When we see them, that's when we really start to party.

The mega columns rise from the top of the entrances of the tower.



Simple and iconic. People will be able to know that it's the WTC at first glance.

I'm sure that all of the entrances are made out of clear glass and you'll be able to see the structure keeping it in place, like with 7WTC. It's really going to make people happy. It's like an upgrade from 7WTC.


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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:48 AM   #3349
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Yes the first basement floor.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 05:30 AM   #3350
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The basement of 7th World Trade Center is i like it..
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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:15 AM   #3351
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The basement of 7th World Trade Center is i like it..
Yes, I agree, never seen that photo before. Awesome blue cave.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:16 AM   #3352
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It seems like the formwork for the southern core has been moved up. Not sure but that is what it looks like.
iirc it's on the 2nd level still? been on 2nd level for about two weeks :S
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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:22 AM   #3353
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in the last 1-2 weeks i couldn't see much progress on the cam
What is the URL link to the live cam?
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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:24 AM   #3354
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damn...freedom tower is going too slow for my tastes. When is this tower supposed to be done anyways?
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Old December 5th, 2007, 06:24 AM   #3355
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Old December 5th, 2007, 08:03 AM   #3356
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What is the URL link to the live cam?
Here's the link to the Earthcam webcam looking at the WTC site.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 07:39 PM   #3357
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Re: the spire. Does anyone else think it would be interesting if the spire were bulged near, but not quite at, the bottom, so that the effect would be the tower looking from the distance like a lit candle? To me, this would be fitting in a number of ways:

1. Solves the problem of putting a spire on a design that really doesn't call for one, by giving it some sort of frame of reference
2. Serves much symbolic purpose, sort of as an analogue to the Statue of Liberty's flame indicating "freedom enlightening the world"
3. Indicates a sort of "perpetual flame" for the victims of 9/11, along with being instantly distinctive and indicative of a solemn site.

Just my thoughts. If you hate the idea, fine, de gustibus non est disputandum. Let me know what you think, though.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #3358
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I love that idea, but I think everything will remain as is.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 10:17 PM   #3359
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Clever idea though...
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Old December 5th, 2007, 11:57 PM   #3360
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Re: the spire. Does anyone else think it would be interesting if the spire were bulged near, but not quite at, the bottom, so that the effect would be the tower looking from the distance like a lit candle? To me, this would be fitting in a number of ways:

1. Solves the problem of putting a spire on a design that really doesn't call for one, by giving it some sort of frame of reference
2. Serves much symbolic purpose, sort of as an analogue to the Statue of Liberty's flame indicating "freedom enlightening the world"
3. Indicates a sort of "perpetual flame" for the victims of 9/11, along with being instantly distinctive and indicative of a solemn site.

Just my thoughts. If you hate the idea, fine, de gustibus non est disputandum. Let me know what you think, though.
Definently, perfect idea, i wish you could send it to someone at the head of the project so they could change the design, best idea ive heard in a while!
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