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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:35 AM   #34021
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:35 AM   #34022
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:51 AM   #34023
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my big ole dumb basset hound could have done much better than any of these horrific designs
I have to agree with you, not that great of a design compared to some of the other Super Tall Skyscrapers being built around the World.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:58 AM   #34024
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:06 AM   #34025
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I am sure Chicagoans would willingly give it once NYC has a building with a roof height of 443m+
Well iloveclassicrock you are entitled to your opinion but, i am sticking to 692 years of tradition of spires being constituted to a buildings official height , and guess what iloveclassicrock if the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat rules 1wtc antenna as a spire new york will have the tallest building and, that's not a opinion that's a fact!
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:11 AM   #34026
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #34027
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Well iloveclassicrock you are entitled to your opinion but, i am sticking to 692 years of tradition of spires being constituted to a buildings official height , and guess what iloveclassicrock if the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat rules 1wtc antenna as a spire new york will have the tallest building and, that's not a opinion that's a fact.
You might want to reread the definition of fact. Based off of how subjective their measurement is, and the fact that they are one voice in the architecture community, their opinion is definitely not fact. There are three non subjective measurements, which are highest floor, pinnacle, and roof height. Even the CTBUH acknowledges 3 systems as equals. 1 WTC will be the tallest building in America by pinnacle height. Sears Tower will be tallest by highest floor and roof height. These are the facts. They had a poll a while back on here, and the majority of people disagreed with the CTBUH
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:30 AM   #34028
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I can't wait until people post time lapses of the ENTIRE WTC redevelopment, from 2002 to 2018 or whenever. That would truly be an amazing site to see.
For Sure, that will be incredible
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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:36 AM   #34029
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You might want to reread the definition of fact. Based off of how subjective their measurement is, and the fact that they are one voice in the architecture community, their opinion is definitely not fact. There are three non subjective measurements, which are highest floor, pinnacle, and roof height. Even the CTBUH acknowledges 3 systems as equals. 1 WTC will be the tallest building in America by pinnacle height. Sears Tower will be tallest by highest floor and roof height. These are the facts. They had a poll a while back on here, and the majority of people disagreed with the CTBUH
The three official measures are :
1 - Height to Architectural Top.
This is the main measure that tall structures are ranked by and compared.

2 - Height to Tip.
I hold this one in high regard and the council may see this as important as number one but not equal to it.

3 - Highest Occupied Level.

The Roof Height has been dropped ... - and for good reason ...

The CTBUH is not one voice in the architectural community - It is THE Voice. The council is not made up of nobodies ... The members are the who's who of the architectural community ... A poll on here is meaningless ...

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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:50 AM   #34030
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One World Trade Center's redesigned spire sorta looks like One Liberty Place's spire in Philly



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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #34031
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The three official measures are :
1 - Height to Architectural Top.
This is the main measure that tall structures are ranked by and compared.

2 - Height to Tip.
I hold this one in high regard and the council may see this as important as number one but not equal to it.

3 - Highest Occupied Level.

The Roof Height has been dropped ... - and for good reason ...

The CTBUH is not one voice in the architectural community - It is THE Voice. The council is not made up of nobodies ... The members are the who's who of the architectural community ... A poll on here is meaningless ...

Good Day.
No one voted them in, they didn't have an agreement with the architecture community. They just gained recognition, and gained popularity. That doesn't mean what they say is fact.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:57 AM   #34032
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One World Trade Center's redesigned spire sorta looks like One Liberty Place's spire in Philly
It might look more like the antenna on 4 Times Square.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 04:58 AM   #34033
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- They don't have an agreement with the architectural community - their members ARE the architectural community.

You don't have to agree with them though ...
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Old June 12th, 2012, 05:10 AM   #34034
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No one voted them in, they didn't have an agreement with the architecture community. They just gained recognition, and gained popularity. That doesn't mean what they say is fact.
In the long run its their word that goes in the history books not are opinions when it comes to the architectural height of 1wtc .
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Old June 12th, 2012, 05:16 AM   #34035
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In the long run its their word that goes in the history books not are opinions when it comes to the architectural height of 1wtc .
There are tons of inaccuracies in history books. Are they facts too ? Also, lets bring this discussion to here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post92286472

We are getting off topic
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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #34036
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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:45 PM   #34037
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Its here! 22MB and over 60 pictures capture month by month from Feb. 2005 - June 2012. I hope to improve this on February 2013. Enjoy "The rise of ground zero".
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Great one! But if you can you should decrease the speed of the pictures changing.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #34038
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I though the roof height was the same as the orriginal north tower wich was 2 meter taller then the south tower.
When they said that they used the main lobby floor as start of the measure. However, height is normally measured from the floor of the lowest above ground entrance and that is 2 meters below the main lobby floor

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Designs 1, 2 and 4 are horrible. Designs 3 and 5 are beautiful. While I like design 5 more I like the height of design 3. It's a hard choice but my favorite is design 5
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #34039
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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #34040
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I think all the old old proposals are horrible. I'm not big fan od 1wtc but at least they have chosen best from the proposals. Oh and Kanto, design 3 is the biggest cheater of them all, with the largest spire just enclosed with some glass
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