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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:45 AM   #35061
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I think we're getting aheard of ourselves here, the columns put up were about 40 feet. That's unconfirmed.
So if that's true, we're not at 1,368. Those columns are no taller than 40feet. That's for sure.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:50 AM   #35062
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Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #35063
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The structure is topped out when it reaches its full height both structurally and architecturally.

It doesn't need to have all of the columns or beams that will be placed at that height to be topped out.

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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:53 AM   #35064
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It was the last major beam on 4WTC that officialy was the "topping out" on the building.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:59 AM   #35065
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Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.
Who said we had finished the 105th floor? Those are the same columns that were placed a few days ago.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:59 AM   #35066
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Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.
Yeah, but you said it was 1,368 in another post, I'm thinking it's not here, but close.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:04 AM   #35067
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Well, floor 105 is definitely not 40 feet high, so for this to be floor 105 with 104 completely finished doesn't make sense. These are so much higher than the surrounding beams, it's the only thing plausible. Thus, floor 105 must be complete.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #35068
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Exactly. The parapet is ~40 feet, and we've completed floor 105, so there is no way this couldn't be the top.
Ok so what you are saying is that these columns erected are only for the 105th floor.

Which means the building will only top out once all the iron and steel frame for the 105th floor is erected and all the parapet columns have been installed.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:10 AM   #35069
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Ok so what you are saying is that these columns erected are only for the 105th floor.

Which means the building will only top out once all the iron and steel frame for the 105th floor is erected and all the parapet columns have been installed.
No, what I am saying that these are the first of the parapet that are completely done.
However, you are correct about the official T/O requirements.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:15 AM   #35070
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No, what I am saying that these are the first of the parapet that are completely done.
However, you are correct about the official T/O necessities.
Ok got it. Now it makes sense.

These perimeter columns are for two floors. The 105th floor and the parapet.

So unofficially, the steel columns have technically reached the highest point structurally of this building and thus making this building Topped out.

But this building won't be considered topped out until all the steel columns are erected.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:17 AM   #35071
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Now you got it.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:18 AM   #35072
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Well, floor 105 is definitely not 40 feet high, so for this to be floor 105 with 104 completely finished doesn't make sense. These are so much higher than the surrounding beams, it's the only thing plausible. Thus, floor 105 must be complete.
We were at 104M,so we had around 59'(give or take)to reach the very tip of the parapet.The beam installed was around 40',which means we are at around the ~15-20 zone,for it to top-out.Definitely not topped out.

We have plenty of forumers here who have inside info and wouldn't be surprised of a few with the blueprints.When the tower tops-out,I'm sure we will be notified by the media and especially by the users in here who have the information.I think what we should do is to chill and relax and watch its last pieces of skeletal steel rise.No need to get ahead of ourselves.

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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:19 AM   #35073
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Now You Guys Have Really Gotten me confused.
Before these columns were up, we were,1,313..
With the new columns 40 feet up, we should be 1,353 feet up.
So steel has not reached it's highest point yet. (if i'm correct)
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:19 AM   #35074
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...Wait? What is going on? Im confused?
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:20 AM   #35075
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:21 AM   #35076
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:22 AM   #35077
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I honestly hope we can get a real source that says we did top out :p I mean... All of our info we have now is like.. Is it real? What is going on?
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:22 AM   #35078
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Now You Guys Have Really Gotten me confused.
Before these columns were up, we were,1,313..
With the new columns 40 feet up, we should be 1,353 feet up.
So steel has not reached it's highest point yet. (if i'm correct)
Almost a week ago we were hearing reports from SSP that we were at 1,334 feet. If this is true, we have indeed topped out. These beams in comparison to the tower could be more than 40 feet also comparing their height to the total height. If we are at 1,313, however, these could be ~55 feet, thus making us topped out on these two beams as well.

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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #35079
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Not to worry, we'll find out soon enough.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 05:48 AM   #35080
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Almost a week ago we were hearing reports from SSP that we were at 1,334 feet. If this is true, we have indeed topped out. These beams in comparison to the tower could be more than 40 feet also comparing their height to the total height. If we are at 1,313, however, these could be ~55 feet, thus making us topped out on these two beams as well.
Firstly, last week before the beams were placed, the building was 1,313. Then these 40 foot beams were installed which brings us to somewhere around, 1,353, if we were at 1,334, which were, not, then that means the beams would be 20 feet. So were not topped out
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