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Old July 23rd, 2012, 12:39 PM   #35441
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Its like the SWFC with the top missing....
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 05:17 PM   #35442
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Are the topping out beams just for show?
Tower 4's topping out beam is no where to be seen on the tower.
If the last column for this tower will mark the topping out, what's the purpose of Obama's beam?
1. No. They are used for the actual structure.
2. It's there somewhere. You just can't see it.
3. The last beam is mostly ceremonial, but it will be installed somewhere up top.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 06:03 PM   #35443
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Kind of cool to think in a little over a year from now we will be talking about the grand opening!
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 06:14 PM   #35444
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correct me if i'm wrong but i thought they never raised the beam signed by Obama.
Not yet.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 09:51 PM   #35445
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Ive seen it from powdermil many times. I go there some years to watch the july 4 fireworks. This year, I looked for wtc, but it wasnt there.

There are four ridges. one is the Tourne/Powdermill one with tall mountains that you can see NY from.
The next is millburn/west caldwell. When you get to the top, more ridges block your view.
Then there are two more closely spaced and the rest is flat land.
Yes I only recently discovered that the skyline can be seen from here after seeing the Empire State Building one clear day. It is extremely visible from powdermill, the wtc that is, are you referring to the place with the apartment buildings?
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 09:56 PM   #35446
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Yes I only recently discovered that the skyline can be seen from here after seeing the Empire State Building one clear day. It is extremely visible from powdermill, the wtc that is, are you referring to the place with the apartment buildings?
Yes, the apartments near route 10. I know someone who lives there.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:08 PM   #35447
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Ive seen it from powdermil many times. I go there some years to watch the july 4 fireworks. This year, I looked for wtc, but it wasnt there.

There are four ridges. one is the Tourne/Powdermill one with tall mountains that you can see NY from.
The next is millburn/west caldwell. When you get to the top, more ridges block your view.
Then there are two more closely spaced and the rest is flat land.
There are actually only 2 main ridges, these are the 1st Watchung Mountain range which is the one that encompasses Caldwell/Montclair/West Paterson/etc. that extends north.
The other Range is the 2nd Watchung Range which is the westerly one which encompasses Randolph, Morris Township, Parsippanny, Boonton/Wayne/etc and also extends north up to Ramapo. Both were formed during the last ice age by the retreating ice sheet.

From the condos at Powder Mill, you get a specatular view. I've actually been able to see the tower rise above the first Watchung range since late last summer. It was low but you could clearly see it. Now it dominates the sky once again like the original twin towers did.
When I was a kid I lived in Rockaway Boro, NJ, and from a highest point in that town we always had a clear view of the towers. I even dated an ex girlfriend in the Landing section of Roxbury some years ago and I also noticed the towers, but were only visible in winter when the leaves were off the trees.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:15 PM   #35448
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This picture I believe is actually next to Sussex Turnpike on the border of Randolph and Morris Twp. near the Morris Youth Center and firemans training center, about a mile or so west of Greystone Park pyschiactric hospital.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:20 PM   #35449
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Is it topped out yet?
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:27 PM   #35450
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And hello everyone btw, I'm new and just signed up for this sight. Love the WTCh discussion as well as many others on here.

I know this may not be poplular on here, but I have to give my honest opinion on the building. As much as I'm happy to finally see it finally go up to have lower manhattan restored and healed once again, I've never been a big fan of this final design. Its better than anything that they previously put forth, but I just never liked the angles of it. Granted they couldn't just put in another boring box shaped building, it had to be unique and it had to stand out as the twin towers did and I get that, but this has always look to me more like just another obelisk or phallic structure than anything else.
When I think about it much though, what could they have done that would have been all that much better? Who knows, and we'll never know. Either way enjoying the progress they've made and look forward to its opening next year.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:37 PM   #35451
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Is it topped out yet?
Technically Yes.

Officially No.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:42 PM   #35452
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:53 PM   #35453
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There are actually only 2 main ridges, these are the 1st Watchung Mountain range which is the one that encompasses Caldwell/Montclair/West Paterson/etc. that extends north.
The other Range is the 2nd Watchung Range which is the westerly one which encompasses Randolph, Morris Township, Parsippanny, Boonton/Wayne/etc and also extends north up to Ramapo. Both were formed during the last ice age by the retreating ice sheet.

From the condos at Powder Mill, you get a specatular view. I've actually been able to see the tower rise above the first Watchung range since late last summer. It was low but you could clearly see it. Now it dominates the sky once again like the original twin towers did.
When I was a kid I lived in Rockaway Boro, NJ, and from a highest point in that town we always had a clear view of the towers. I even dated an ex girlfriend in the Landing section of Roxbury some years ago and I also noticed the towers, but were only visible in winter when the leaves were off the trees.
The first watchung mountain range is made up of three small ridges, though. At least in the area around 280 it is.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #35454
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The first watchung mountain range is made up of three small ridges, though. At least in the area around 280 it is.

Yes, you're definitely right. I just wanted to point out to the others on here who may not be familiar with the area that there are basically the two main mountain ranges, but yes you have other small ridges that make up the range.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #35455
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:42 AM   #35456
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There are actually only 2 main ridges, these are the 1st Watchung Mountain range which is the one that encompasses Caldwell/Montclair/West Paterson/etc. that extends north.
The other Range is the 2nd Watchung Range which is the westerly one which encompasses Randolph, Morris Township, Parsippanny, Boonton/Wayne/etc and also extends north up to Ramapo. Both were formed during the last ice age by the retreating ice sheet.

From the condos at Powder Mill, you get a specatular view. I've actually been able to see the tower rise above the first Watchung range since late last summer. It was low but you could clearly see it. Now it dominates the sky once again like the original twin towers did.
When I was a kid I lived in Rockaway Boro, NJ, and from a highest point in that town we always had a clear view of the towers. I even dated an ex girlfriend in the Landing section of Roxbury some years ago and I also noticed the towers, but were only visible in winter when the leaves were off the trees.
Yes there are two ridges going East towards NYC, but running parallel to the city are 4 ridges: Powdermill, Tourne, Pyramid, and Boonton. Yea when the tower was about 990 feet last August, that is when I first found it from that vantage point in the picture I took. Wasn't exactly sure if it was Goldman Sachs in Jersey City though. It would have been spectacular to see the Twin Towers from that vantage point, but I was too young to even know how to work a camera.

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Yes, the apartments near route 10. I know someone who lives there.
Yea same, that's how I found out about it.

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This picture I believe is actually next to Sussex Turnpike on the border of Randolph and Morris Twp. near the Morris Youth Center and firemans training center, about a mile or so west of Greystone Park pyschiactric hospital.
Yep you are correct. There is a small building at the top across from the original HQ of the Interfaith Food Pantry, where there is a sweeping view of the 9/11 memorial with the skyline behind it. Incredible place, although very few people notice the skyline from there. I found it by accident, and like you said, it is very close to Greystone, and if you go in the parking lot of the hospital, it is also very visible to see just the top of it on a clear day.

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Old July 24th, 2012, 01:36 AM   #35457
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Okay, I can't take it anymore. I'll be back in September with the hopes of there being a couple more columns installed by then!! Ugggh lol
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Old July 24th, 2012, 01:58 AM   #35458
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When I first noticed 1wtc at tourne, only a square portion was visible over the ridge. It was much wider than other NY buildings such as esb, so I thought, at first, that it was a local building, but I realized that it was 1wtc after it grew in the following months.

In the photos, you could see the colors of the building, but when I view it from 30 miles away, it is solid blue and the glass, concrete, and black coverings were indistinguishable. Maybe I just happened to see it on low visibility days?
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Old July 24th, 2012, 02:00 AM   #35459
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Looks great 17 State Street's cladding!
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Old July 24th, 2012, 02:09 AM   #35460
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The reflection of 1 onto 7 is pretty cool. Too bad that 7 didn't think of it when they built it.
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