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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:17 AM   #35781
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CTBUH's definition of "topped out".

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A building is considered to be "Topped Out" when it is under construction, and has reached its full height both structurally and architecturally (e.g., including its spires, parapets, etc).
Now the question is, can the mast be considered an architectural feature of the tower now that the architectural enclosure has been scrapped?
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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:43 AM   #35782
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Now the question is, can the mast be considered an architectural feature of the tower now that the architectural enclosure has been scrapped?

I see their no question at all. The mast was nothing but an antenna enclosed in a radome. When you remove that, you have an antenna. I can't see the CTBUH rulling it 1,776.

Otie, Do you see a chance that they could add the enclosure in the future?
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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:50 AM   #35783
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I see their no question at all. The mast was nothing but an antenna enclosed in a radome. When you remove that, you have an antenna. I can't see the CTBUH rulling it 1,776.

Otie, Do you see a chance that they could add the enclosure in the future?
im preety sure if they were going to do the enclosure they would have done ti now whiles it underconstruction, people really need to get over the fact that there wont be an enclosure plain and simple
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Old July 30th, 2012, 02:54 AM   #35784
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well it certainly isn't impossible that they clad it in the future or at least compromise somehow, but I don't personally think it's likely.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 03:10 AM   #35785
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well it certainly isn't impossible that they clad it in the future or at least compromise somehow, but I don't personally think it's likely.
thats what im saying i mean if they wanted to they could, but wat im saying is if they were going to do it they would do it now and their not
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Old July 30th, 2012, 04:01 AM   #35786
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Hi all.

1 - Who cares about blood alcohol content ?? This isn't sitting on your ass driving a car (and whether any tolerance should be OK in that case is for another debate) ..... Absolutely ZERO tolerance !! How would you like to be working below someone who was drinking on their break. They drop something and you could be killed. They should all have to blow on a unit to make sure they aren't still intoxicated from last night, let alone from last break !
Drinking on break should lead to immediate dismissal - no questions asked !!

2 - I'm assuming the antenna will not be covered and will not factor in the official height to architectural top (but I hope they do re-revise the plan so it will be included).
The way I read the council's topping out requirement is when the first column or beam is erected which reaches the structures full height. By that, when the final piece is placed would make that the ceremonial topping out.

I am going to find out from one of our forum members who is a member of the council, just so I know what their meaning is. I will post his answer here.


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Old July 30th, 2012, 04:19 AM   #35787
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Spire assembly will begin when?
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Old July 30th, 2012, 04:33 AM   #35788
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The top of the tower can be seen from the top floors of the highrises (200 feet) and from the highest classroom of my high school which is on a hill, about 30 miles.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 07:12 AM   #35789
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this is kinda off-topic, but whats the deal with tower 5, is that still being built?
I am positive that it will be built at some point in the future. The land is too valuable to be left as a pit. Worst case scenario, Silverstein or the PA sells it to someone else and they maximize the space vertically.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #35790
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Lightning over the Freedom Tower von Diacritical auf Flickr

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Update on Freedom von Jersey JJ auf Flickr

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Old July 30th, 2012, 10:48 AM   #35791
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Amazing, I think it's the most beautiful skyscraper in america
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Old July 30th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #35792
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That's 15 and a half, actually :P.

As someone from SSP mentioned this morning, "When the towers came down they found beer cans lodged inside steel beams. It used to be a regular thing. DIRECTLY ON SITE!"

It's not about how many beers you drink (I'm guessing it takes as many as one to catch their attention), its about your BAC. It's perfectly legal to drive after drinking beer as long as you are not intoxicated beyond a legal level determined by your BAC.

Yes, I am aware that drinking could endanger workers on the site, and it's certainly not something I'd promote. But banning them from the site when it wasn't even proven that they were intoxicated to any dangerous extent? Especially when this project so desperately needs helping hands? Give them a slap on the wrist and move on.

And on a final semantic note, I said I would be tempted to look the other way, not compelled to condone it.
so because they found beer cans DIRECTLY ON SITE at the old WTC that it's suddenly ok to drink and be caught with no repercussions?? Truly, you have proven beyond a doubt that you are indeed 15 1/2. They were observed drinking at lunch dude. Pretty sure iron workers aren't supposed to have a few beers at lunch then return to work ...............what ever their blood alcohol level is, IT'S NOT ALLOWED!

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Old July 30th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #35793
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i have a feeling this week that a lot of progress will be made on each of the projects (except tower 2)
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Old July 30th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #35794
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Old July 30th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #35795
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I hope so!

Here's an update from this weekend. Cloudy, but One WTC is soaring nonetheless.

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Old July 30th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #35796
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New steel is arriving on site.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 07:41 PM   #35797
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Old July 30th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #35798
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Looks like more sprandel beams.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:41 PM   #35799
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The top of the tower can be seen from the top floors of the highrises (200 feet) and from the highest classroom of my high school which is on a hill, about 30 miles.
Which school is it? Mountain Lakes?
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Which school is it? Mountain Lakes?
Morristown
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