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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:09 AM   #38401
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Cuomo assesses damage of WTC site

The vehicle security center's underground ramps literally funneled storm surge into the flooded construction pit.



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Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday said the World Trade Center site had suffered extensive flooding as a result of Superstorm Sandy.

"What I saw last night in downtown Manhattan were some of the worst conditions I had ever seen," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Tuesday morning, providing the first official description of the impact of the storm at the WTC site. "The Hudson River was literally pouring into the Ground Zero site with such a force we were worried about the structure of the pit itself."

Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the bi-state agency's top New York official, said he doubted the storm surge had caused any structural damage at WTC site but that equipment and electrical systems being installed may have been damaged by the flood waters.

"There was a substantial incursion of water," Mr. Foye said. "I think it's fair to say that salt water and modern electrical equipment don't mix well. We don't expect structural damage but damage to equipment. That assessment is underway and is a high priority."


Mr. Foye said that West, Washington and Cedar streets, roadways that surround the WTC site, were all flooded during the storm. The storm surge swept into the WTC site, a construction pit largely open to the elements, primarily through the Vehicle Security Center on the southern end of the project. The security center will have ramps to allow traffic to pass underground via subterranean roads and parking areas. It appears those ramps served as a chute for the storm's oncoming water.

The WTC site is especially vulnerable to flooding because its located in low lying neighborhoods. Metropolitan Transportation Authority CEO Joseph Lhota said in a press conference Tuesday morning that the nearby South Street station at the southern tip of Manhattan had been completely flooded during the storm.

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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:27 AM   #38402
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Old October 31st, 2012, 09:34 AM   #38403
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Found a photo by the PANYNJ on twitter showing a location near the site at Greenwich St. and Albany St.:

https://twitter.com/WTCProgress
Note: this is a picture apparently taken BEFORE the power failure, the water may have been higher.
Is it strange that I feel like swimming in there?
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Old October 31st, 2012, 10:16 AM   #38404
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It's surprising how much damage Hurricane Sandy caused in New York City. Here in Philadelphia, just a mere 90 miles south-west of NYC, the storm was like an ordinary rain - no toppled trees or power outages.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 10:32 AM   #38405
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This is not good. It could set things back months, if not a year or more. The bathtub could be filled to sea level, for all we know...
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Old October 31st, 2012, 12:37 PM   #38406
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Oh my god, hope people in nyc are all fine. I've seen in the newspaper that the top crane of one 57 broke, are the cranes of 1 wtc fine ?
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Old October 31st, 2012, 02:02 PM   #38407
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What a horrbile read. This gives a glimpse of how much the construction of this site has been put backwards.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 02:42 PM   #38408
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So most of the site is flooded now?
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Old October 31st, 2012, 02:49 PM   #38409
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So most of the site is flooded now?
Not the whole site, it seems like "just" the underground facilities are still flooded with 3-4 feet of water.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 04:29 PM   #38410
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What a horrbile read. This gives a glimpse of how much the construction of this site has been put backwards.
Sadly you are right. The destruction of the equipment stored down there will probably be a major setback for the site, though I think that the construction on the ground will be the main one to suffer. Fortunately no damage is visible up on the topped out towers except of a bit of missing netting on tower 1.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:14 PM   #38411
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NYBOY1975! We would all like to hear from you and know that you are alright!
Exactly with the destruction at Breezypoint I hope he is doing well.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:16 PM   #38412
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The basement floors of the World Trade Center site sustained between 15 and 30 feet of flooding, Crain’s reported. Worsening things is the ongoing power outage in Lower Manhattan, which is obstructing the pumping out of saltwater from the site. It could take more than a week to get the water out, according to Crain’s.
Saltwater causes more damage to electrical systems than fresh water does.
Of primary concern is the underground equipment that generates ventilation for portions of the site, including the 9/11 memorial and retail space.
Fully assessing the impact of the flooding is difficult until all the water can be pumped out. But preliminary assessments showed that the site, overall, did not sustain severe damage. As previously reported, the assessment of the site is being treated as a high priority.
There is not yet an estimate of what has been damaged, or how much it will cost to fix or replace. [Crain’s] — Zachary Kussin
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Exactly with the destruction at Breezypoint I hope he is doing well.
I hope he's OK, the flooding in that area was really serious.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:28 PM   #38413
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I thought He lived in Rockaway, which had even worse flooding?!
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:33 PM   #38414
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I thought He lived in Rockaway, which had even worse flooding?!
if he lived in rockaway he'd be part of zone A which were told to evacuate, hope he's well!
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Old October 31st, 2012, 08:21 PM   #38415
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Old October 31st, 2012, 08:47 PM   #38416
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KPI Memorial Pools view:

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One cam on the KPI monitoring is still up. But not much to see on it except that all the water is gone now and the buildings are still without power.

http://www.video-monitoring.com/cons...itv/silver.htm
It's the "1 wtc side" cam
The "Memorial Pools" view on KPI from this morning (10/31/12, 11:58AM) shows that the entrances to 1 WTC were heavily sandbagged. I hope that prevented some damage.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 09:31 PM   #38417
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Considering the heavy flooding, I'm relieved that the site looks surprisingly unchanged on the surface..
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Old October 31st, 2012, 09:39 PM   #38418
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i am really worried about the basement.

lots of electrical vaults etc down there. i wonder about the substation below 7WTC too. that is a MAJOR center for conED
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Old October 31st, 2012, 10:01 PM   #38419
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if he lived in rockaway he'd be part of zone A which were told to evacuate, hope he's well!
Breezy point is in the Rockaway's
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Old October 31st, 2012, 11:10 PM   #38420
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It's surprising how much damage Hurricane Sandy caused in New York City. Here in Philadelphia, just a mere 90 miles south-west of NYC, the storm was like an ordinary rain - no toppled trees or power outages.
There are a few toppled trees. Walking to the el this morning, there were 3 of them.
Peco reported 500,000 outages.

So Philly did get hit. Not nearly as hard as NY
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