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Old October 31st, 2012, 11:30 PM   #38421
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oh my gosh this site may be set back so much the towers wont open 'til the sun explodes.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 12:08 AM   #38422
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The situation at the WTC is still better than the situation at 157. I think that the most of the delays will be at the Museum and the Vehicle Security Center, the towers should in my opinion be able to continue as planned.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 12:44 AM   #38423
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not if they don't have electricity.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 12:53 AM   #38424
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I could be wrong, but can't quickly installed temporary cables bring in the power?
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Old November 1st, 2012, 12:57 AM   #38425
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oh my gosh this site may be set back so much the towers wont open 'til the sun explodes.
This tower is a monument to recovery and determination in the face of unimaginable disaster, in fact, the whole site is. I imagine that the only thing we need to worry about at this particular tower is the utilities for construction. The cranes and other equipment need inspection, but I bet the workers are ready to get back out there and start kicking ass. If the water had made it into the lobby of this tower, there would be far more water than the vague 15-30 feet mentioned. I hope the flooding is limited to the hub. The electrical for this tower should be almost directly from the Consolidated Edison sub-station beneath 7 World Trade Center, meaning there should be far less cable to inspect and seeing as tower 7 is apparently on the grid there shouldn't be much to inspect. Of course that is assuming that the water was no in the tower's basement. In the future, or even if the fuel cells and generators were connected and functional the tower would probably have had limited office lighting and completely operational life-safety features functional even after the power outage.


Speak of the devil. The lights in the lobby of both 4 and 1 WTC are one as are the memorial lights.

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Old November 1st, 2012, 01:41 AM   #38426
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There are a few toppled trees. Walking to the el this morning, there were 3 of them.
Peco reported 500,000 outages.

So Philly did get hit. Not nearly as hard as NY
What is an el?
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Old November 1st, 2012, 01:47 AM   #38427
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Old November 1st, 2012, 02:04 AM   #38428
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Old November 1st, 2012, 03:04 AM   #38429
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What is an el?

An elevated subway.
Like NYC IRT?

Phillies- Market Frankford Line?


Anyhow- It many delays will occur, espically to tower 1 If lobby marble has reached ground level, then that might be damaged on tower 1
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Old November 1st, 2012, 03:34 AM   #38430
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I could be wrong, but can't quickly installed temporary cables bring in the power?
I could be wrong myself, But I think still there isn't electricity in much of Lower Manhattan, Or is it now fully recovered the electrical suministry in that area? Last time I heard, still not. If that's the case, they just can't bring in the power, from where would they take it, if the entire area has a blackout?
Anyway, I think they'd better first pump all the water out the basement and check everithing's allright in order to resume construction, there's not such rush.

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The basement levels of the World Trade Center are flooded with between 15 feet and 30 feet of water, government officials and Port Authority of New York and New Jersey sources say, the result of the surging sea levels during Superstorm Sandy.

The flooding equals millions of gallons of water that could potentially cause costly damage to equipment and electrical systems at the multi-billion dollar construction project, though preliminary evaluations appear to show the site was not severely damaged.

Adding to the difficulties is an ongoing power outage in lower Manhattan that has interfered with efforts to pump out the damaging saltwater, which sources say is significantly more corrosive to electrical wiring and systems than freshwater.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 03:43 AM   #38431
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Old November 1st, 2012, 05:08 AM   #38432
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Very amazing.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 05:19 AM   #38433
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I could be wrong myself, But I think still there isn't electricity in much of Lower Manhattan, Or is it now fully recovered the electrical suministry in that area? Last time I heard, still not. If that's the case, they just can't bring in the power, from where would they take it, if the entire area has a blackout?
Anyway, I think they'd better first pump all the water out the basement and check everithing's allright in order to resume construction, there's not such rush.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/121039984
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ConEd says power may be restored to Lower Manhattan by Saturday or just after. The WTC site may have to wait until water is cleared from basements and power vaults are cleared for restart. 7 WTC has been running on backup generators but just that tower. The worst flooding was in the Vehicle Security Center still under construction. The memorial took a minor hit.

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo was among those who descended seven stories into the base of 1 World Trade Center only to find water at the bottom. He said it was unclear if the water was coming in from the bottom — which would mean the “bathtub” keeping out the Hudson River had been breached — or if the water was merely from the rain.

Since the buildings of the complex are attached underground, there appeared to be water on the lower levels over the entire 16-acre site, and a lot of water was observed at the vehicle-security center nearest West Street.

Silverstein Properties, which owns 7 World Trade Center and is completing 4 World Trade Center while finishing the bases of 2 and 3, said nothing was damaged, though there was some water in lower levels. Seven WTC was running on “fully functioning” emergency power.

The Memorial drained its water harvest tanks and stopped the two pools prior to the arrival of the storm, and some water was observed in the still uncompleted Museum area.

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Old November 1st, 2012, 05:34 AM   #38434
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Coney Island is in absolute ruin,staying in my friends house in Staten Island,anyway great pics if 1 wtc.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 06:08 AM   #38435
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The lights in the tower came on briefly, but are now out again. Strangely, only the upper-half of the tower was lit up. I think it may have been fully lit at some point this evening, but when I went to the roof of my brownstone to get a view, it was dark again.

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Old November 1st, 2012, 06:26 AM   #38436
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Wow that is indeed creepy.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 10:23 AM   #38437
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Knowing that an event like this is more than a remote possibility, you would think that the underground areas would be compartmented (so was the Titanic, but we know how THAT turned out) so that a breach in one would not flood the whole site. Critical electric equipment, you would think, would also be protected from flooding. If the bathtub was not engineered in this fashion, they were seriously remiss.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 11:00 AM   #38438
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Breezy point? Isn't that where a large fire that destroyed 100 homes was?
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Old November 1st, 2012, 02:10 PM   #38439
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Those storm photos are incredible. They are among the best photos I've ever seen. I absolutely love dark storm clouds just as I love sunsets
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Old November 1st, 2012, 04:03 PM   #38440
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I'm glad that my plane was cancelled, i don't want to be in that city right now.
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