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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:21 AM   #39081
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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:34 AM   #39082
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Old December 1st, 2012, 02:14 AM   #39083
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??Nice christmas decoration.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 02:23 AM   #39084
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its Urkaine. Roshen candy factory.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 03:42 AM   #39085
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What does that have to do with anything? Back to One WTC people!
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:16 AM   #39086
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I posted this in the Twin Towers thread, but I'd like to post it here as well.

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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:50 AM   #39087
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I'm so happy you posted that! I've been trying to find a good comparison that's up to date!
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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:24 AM   #39088
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Since everyone is voicing opinions, I thought I put in my two cents: generally speaking I love the current 1WTC over the old twin towers because I like glassy buildings and the fact it is slightly more slender and tapering. It is more elegant.

I think the old design for the base with the chamfered edges was nicer but I can live with the glassy cube instead.

The antenna is a BIG disappointment to me. I cannot express how sorry I am they scrapped the old spire design. I'm hoping that once it's built and finished I can say I was wrong about the antenna ... but I doubt it.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:45 AM   #39089
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Amazing Chapelo.It's amazing how much development to the north of the WTC site.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:12 AM   #39090
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Does anyone know how many years a building like WTC1 can stand; 100, 200 etc. years? Is the construction capable to survive half a millennium, in case of normal use ofcourse.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 01:09 PM   #39091
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In my opinion 1WTC will last longer than any other building because of its incredibly massive concrete core. Ipd say it could last millenia if properly maintained
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Old December 1st, 2012, 03:33 PM   #39092
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Old December 1st, 2012, 03:35 PM   #39093
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Does anyone know how many years a building like WTC1 can stand; 100, 200 etc. years? Is the construction capable to survive half a millennium, in case of normal use ofcourse.
The concrete dome of the Pantheon has lasted 2000 years!

If properly maintained, modern skyscrapers of concrete glass and steel could last many thousands of years.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 04:15 PM   #39094
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Yeah, any concrete can last an extremely long time.
This would probably be the last skyscraper standing if humanity left, considering the strength.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:49 PM   #39095
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That makes it even more a solid and sustainable investment. WTC1 is completly cladded with glass and other materials, so the concrete would be conserved/protected.

When you vision it in this way, why so much stagnation on waiting for a maximum percentage of tenants to build WTC3. But time is money and people don't life that long.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:56 PM   #39096
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Yeah, any concrete can last an extremely long time.
This would probably be the last skyscraper standing if humanity left, considering the strength.
I completely agree with you. If maintained, the lifespan of this building could be approaching that of the Giza pyramids. Though maintenance is key even for concrete buildings when they are in a humid enviroment. Concrete is far more resilient to water but not imprevious to it. That's why buildings do need their facade
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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:20 PM   #39097
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Isnt the glass suppose to reach the top this month?
Thought so...
Yet more delays makes this an unlikely scenario....
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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:28 PM   #39098
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I completely agree with you. If maintained, the lifespan of this building could be approaching that of the Giza pyramids. Though maintenance is key even for concrete buildings when they are in a humid enviroment. Concrete is far more resilient to water but not imprevious to it. That's why buildings do need their facade
Many monuments and buildings have been standing for hundreds of years without proper maintenance. For example, Tikal in Guatemala. It has been there since 1000 BC and it was restored in 1960. Almost 2000 years hidden in the jungle.



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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:34 PM   #39099
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It depend on how they were built. Of course their are also a lot of buildings without proper maintenance that aren't standing today either, but yes I agree this will last a very very long time!
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Old December 1st, 2012, 07:05 PM   #39100
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I posted this in the Twin Towers thread, but I'd like to post it here as well.

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