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Old March 22nd, 2008, 10:42 PM   #4041
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do you mean the stairs at the corner? the stairs at the corner are just for the lower portion of the building i think.
the main stairway is in the central core.
Ah, they are just in the base portion. That makes more sense.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:21 AM   #4042
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there 12 floors in the base part as you can see on the renders (if i didnt count wrong). and you guys say that there are 90 floors in the upper part. that equals to 102 floor. freedom tower is supposed to be 108 floors. so what about the 6 missing floors?





Those 6 floors aren't really missing. They're in there somewhere.

Note the high ceilings in the base. I counted about 10 floors there, but I could be wrong.

There are about 6 other floors at the top. That might account for the ones that are supposedly missing.

Word is that the restaurant and obs deck are just below those 6 floors.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 03:25 AM   #4043
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From the renders and floor plans there really dosnt look like there is much usable office space, the lobby looks really narrow also compared to the previous towers...
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 03:52 AM   #4044
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Here's an older diagram from 2006 showing the floors.

http://architecture.about.com/od/wor...er-Section.htm

I'd post a direct link but the picture is huge.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 04:34 AM   #4045
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There IS a larger pic of the cutaway in the Freedom Tower thread at SSP, if it is still there.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 07:45 AM   #4046
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Looks like they repaved in front of the new temporary transit center. I guess that answers my question on how pedestrians were gonna access it. Looks like they'll just close off that street to vehicular activity.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:13 AM   #4047
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you know what i would like to see?
a photo update.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 11:59 AM   #4048
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Americans, Call up your elected officials and tell them to stand against the Air Force deal with air buss for our new air tankers.

60,000 US jobs are at stake and we dont need to US Government to be out sourcing anymore American Jobs.
I wonder if it's this kind of attitude that makes 'most' of the rest of the world hate Americans?

This is supposed to be a world of free trade, and if Airbus offer a better package then so be it.

You'll notice that european airlines and airforces don't buy 'only' european aircraft in order to safeguard european jobs, they tend to go for the best deal to suit their current needs.

Worth a thought????

Just for the record, this isn't an anti US rant, i actually love the place, and the people in general, it's just that this kind of attitude annoys me a bit.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:41 PM   #4049
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you know what i would like to see?
a photo update.
If it was possible to make a good photo updates of the progress without trespassing the building site this thread would be overflowing with pictures. Until it becomes more visible we can still watch all the progress 24/7 via the Earthcam. And check WTCRising.com for updates from the building site.

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I wonder if it's this kind of attitude that makes 'most' of the rest of the world hate Americans?

This is supposed to be a world of free trade, and if Airbus offer a better package then so be it.

You'll notice that european airlines and airforces don't buy 'only' european aircraft in order to safeguard european jobs, they tend to go for the best deal to suit their current needs.

Worth a thought????

Just for the record, this isn't an anti US rant, i actually love the place, and the people in general, it's just that this kind of attitude annoys me a bit.
Please read the 1st post of this thread.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 01:11 PM   #4050
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you want updates? i have some (from flickr )

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Old March 23rd, 2008, 01:17 PM   #4051
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thanks for these photos, but actually we haven't seen any updates from WTC1 site in quite a few days. anyone?
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM   #4052
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thanks for these photos, but actually we haven't seen any updates from WTC1 site in quite a few days. anyone?
have a look at page 198. the photos on that page are from the wtc1 site
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 01:33 PM   #4053
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thanks for these photos, but actually we haven't seen any updates from WTC1 site in quite a few days. anyone?
The site hasn't changed that much. They are installing some forms for a section of the first basement floor and on another section they are installing rebar. Further some forms are being installed round the beams east from the core and some scaffolding is placed to install rebar on a column between the FT and the PATH tracks.

Oh and they are installing steel beams along the western slurry wall for the WTC Memorial
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 04:07 PM   #4054
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Thanks Densetsu, those pics are great.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 06:23 PM   #4055
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I just noticed that the thread title is wrong. In the title "108fl" is written. But we have counted that there are 12 floors in the lower portion and 90 floors in the upper part. That equals to 102 floors. Also you can see that Freedom Tower has 102 floors on the diagram that Culwulla drew. If i am right a moderator should change the thread title.

A part of Cul's Diagram
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Old March 24th, 2008, 12:41 AM   #4056
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I can't believe we're whining about this again, but I can believe it. The PANYNJ and Silver Props have officially titled the observation floor 102; there are several floors on top of floor 102; therefore, the title should have a number over 104 and any number under 103 is clearly incorrect. Does ICC have a number under 118? Does 7WTC have a number under 52? No. Then why is it only this tower that people whine about?
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Old March 24th, 2008, 01:23 AM   #4057
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I can't believe that we are still whining about this again, but I can believe it.

Does ICC have a number under 118? Does 7WTC have a number under 52? No. Then why is it only this tower that people whine about?


Seems to me that some are still not satisfied with the height of the tower no matter what they do, so they just keep on beating up on the dead horse.

But they need to just put all those complaints to bed because it'll do them no good, so they might just as well leave it alone.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 02:00 AM   #4058
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Please read the 1st post of this thread.
Fair point, i'm not trolling i am a genuine poster so appologies for lowering the tone. Just that kinda attitude stinks if you ask me(i know that's only my opinion)

Back on topic, looks great to me, although i can't help thinking they should have designed the freedom tower as the 'Twin' freedom towers.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 05:05 AM   #4059
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Last time I was at Ground Zero the sidewalk on Church Street was closed from the public for construction.

I didn't even attempt to get a close look.
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I wonder if it's this kind of attitude that makes 'most' of the rest of the world hate Americans?

This is supposed to be a world of free trade, and if Airbus offer a better package then so be it.

You'll notice that european airlines and airforces don't buy 'only' european aircraft in order to safeguard european jobs, they tend to go for the best deal to suit their current needs.

Worth a thought????

Just for the record, this isn't an anti US rant, i actually love the place, and the people in general, it's just that this kind of attitude annoys me a bit.
LOL this is very true. You'd think someone railing against them would be able to spell Airbus correctly, as well! There are no jobs at stake, only those to gain as Airbus has manufacturing plants in the U.S. too. Northrop Grumman is Airbus' partner anyway, geez.
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