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Old March 26th, 2008, 12:21 AM   #4081
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never seen a tower where the first and 2nd floor for the core took so long. i mean...over one month for one floor???
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Old March 26th, 2008, 01:06 AM   #4082
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You people really are doomed to a life of ignorance. We're not at the stage where it takes one week for one floor, which we'll see late this year, but it is anything but slow considering the size and that we really just started building around one year ago.

No other city in the world will have such a massive office complex with such unmatched towers. The only other place I can think of that could match this office project is NYC... midtown NYC. They say the winner of the Hudson Center projects is Tishman and they are planning over 13MSF of world-class office space with two twins towers at around 900 feet tall and another two twin towers over 1,100 feet tall, plus other towers too. That area of NYC west of the ESB with all of the big plans will make the WTC area look like nothing.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 01:22 AM   #4083
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Maybe we should just leave them alone because it seems as though the more we try to explain the nature of the work to them, the more impatient they become.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 02:37 AM   #4084
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Where exactly is that other office tower going on Church Street across from Ground Zero
that Silverstein is planning to build?
Are you referring to 99 Church Street?

Yes, it will be directly across the street from Tower 2 at 915 feet tall.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 02:41 AM   #4085
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Looks likes its progressing well.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 04:15 AM   #4086
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Are you referring to 99 Church Street?

Yes, it will be directly across the street from Tower 2 at 915 feet tall.
No there's supposed to be some office skyscraper he's planning on Church Street, not 99. But I don't know if it's true or not cause I can't find any info that mentions it.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 06:45 AM   #4087
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never seen a tower where the first and 2nd floor for the core took so long. i mean...over one month for one floor???
It's an American unions thing, you wouldn't understand!
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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:18 AM   #4088
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You people really are doomed to a life of ignorance. We're not at the stage where it takes one week for one floor, which we'll see late this year, but it is anything but slow considering the size and that we really just started building around one year ago.

No other city in the world will have such a massive office complex with such unmatched towers. The only other place I can think of that could match this office project is NYC... midtown NYC. They say the winner of the Hudson Center projects is Tishman and they are planning over 13MSF of world-class office space with two twins towers at around 900 feet tall and another two twin towers over 1,100 feet tall, plus other towers too. That area of NYC west of the ESB with all of the big plans will make the WTC area look like nothing.
oh really, there are citys out there that have twice the size of this area and these towers are no where near unmatched towers. these towers are a joke, a 2 yr old could design these. there plain and simple. nothing special. just because there at asite were 9-11 happend doesnt mean there unmatched towers or great buildings. the projects that are going up in Ny are very small in size, if u comepare them to other projects outside Ny. this site is only 15 acres. thats a small lot compared to the projects around the world.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:38 AM   #4089
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They are by far unmatched in many different areas, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have only proven yourself to be locked up in your own little fantasy world. What you have said is funny to a degree, but sad to another. Acres, 2 years, how incredibly inane. What does empty plot size have to do with anything? Look at me, I have lots of open space in a small complex; therefore, I am superior to you. In fact, it is said that these buildings will help to redefine the skyscraper by meeting standards never before met before. In terms of skyscrapers, you can't get much more important.

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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:43 AM   #4090
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oh really, there are citys out there that have twice the size of this area and these towers are no where near unmatched towers. these towers are a joke, a 2 yr old could design these. there plain and simple. nothing special. just because there at asite were 9-11 happend doesnt mean there unmatched towers or great buildings. the projects that are going up in Ny are very small in size, if u comepare them to other projects outside Ny. this site is only 15 acres. thats a small lot compared to the projects around the world.

theres larger projects around the world, both in land size and taller,agree with u on that, but quality beats quantity imo, i would side with 15 acres of almost perfectly planned development against a 100 acre development poorly designed , anyday. Yeah the new WTC towers are simple, but the sheer size is amazing, and that could make tha area unmatched imo.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:47 AM   #4091
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They are by far unmatched in many different areas, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have only proven yourself to be locked up in your own little fantasy world. What you have said is funny to a degree, but sad to another. Acres, 2 years, how incredibly inane. What does empty plot size have to do with anything? Look at me, I have lots of open space in a small complex; therefore, I am superior to you.
do explain how they are by far unmatched in many different areas ???, your locked up in your own little fantasy world thinking these shity simple box towers are far unmatched when they are not.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:49 AM   #4093
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What does the area size have to do with anything? The site is 16 acres, but it doesn't mean that it is all being developed; a 1,000 acre development could be called a development with only having 1 acre built up on.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 08:52 AM   #4094
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No other city in the world will have such a massive office complex with such unmatched towers.
and there is projects out there. that do massive office complex and unmatched towers.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 09:00 AM   #4095
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well you said
and there is projects out there. that do massive office complex and unmatched towers.
Anything with over 13MSF of class-A office space, with dozens of trading floors, and a massive mall with world-class architecture, setting new standards, wholly in skyscraper form? Then you got my attention. Until then, cut out.

It even beats out the old WTC.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 09:07 AM   #4096
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let me see the Dubia mall has class architecture, and the Dubai international financial centre area has alot of trading floors. its on its way to become the number 1 financial centre in the world.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 09:23 AM   #4097
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omfg both of you shut up
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Old March 26th, 2008, 10:25 AM   #4099
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let me see the Dubia mall has class architecture, and the Dubai international financial centre area has alot of trading floors. its on its way to become the number 1 financial centre in the world.
Helghast, having a lot of skyscrapers doesn't make you the biggest financial center. London is a biggest financial center than Chicago, but it doesn't have nearly as many skyscrapers. A city becomes a financial center through different aspects: favorable laws, and strategic position: Singapore and Hong Kong have perfect positions for the Asian market, London is the bridge with the US for money in transition with Europe, and New York has the United States (biggest market and richest country in the world.
Dubai? It is not even in the top 10 countries in the world (in terms of wealth) and it is only one city (the emirates are divided, and even if you put them together, the only other city of any importance is Abu Dhabi. Economic power? GDP? extremely low. Same as it's chances to become a finance center like hong kong (let alone New York, where even the modern concept of free trade was invented, let alone the stock exchange).
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oh really, there are citys out there that have twice the size of this area and these towers are no where near unmatched towers. these towers are a joke, a 2 yr old could design these. there plain and simple. nothing special. just because there at asite were 9-11 happend doesnt mean there unmatched towers or great buildings. the projects that are going up in Ny are very small in size, if u comepare them to other projects outside Ny. this site is only 15 acres. thats a small lot compared to the projects around the world.


Then get a 2-year-old to design and build them.
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