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Old April 3rd, 2008, 10:09 AM   #4181
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 02:54 PM   #4182
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'FREEDOM' RATTLED

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April 1, 2008 -- The Freedom Tower is being put to the test.

1 million square feet of glass that will rise 1,368 feet when completed in 2011. An antenna will make the total height a symbolic 1,776 feet.
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Interesting explanation of the height of the building. This report is calling the Spire an antenna! If it truly is an antenna the building will not be 1776' tall it will only be 1368' tall. Another reason this design is far inferior to the original.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 03:02 PM   #4183
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I always thought they should have put the roof at 1,776 and the tip of the antenna at 2,001 for both larger height and double symbolism.

Anyway, I still like the current design, sexy shape, and unlike the original WTC it doesn't look like it was built from Lego blocks.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 03:13 PM   #4184
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It is an antenna and a spire. The antenna is in the spire.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 04:29 PM   #4185
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I always thought they should have put the roof at 1,776 and the tip of the antenna at 2,001 for both larger height and double symbolism.

Anyway, I still like the current design, sexy shape, and unlike the original WTC it doesn't look like it was built from Lego blocks.
Yeah that actually would have been a good idea.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM   #4186
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I always thought they should have put the roof at 1,776 and the tip of the antenna at 2,001 for both larger height and double symbolism.

Anyway, I still like the current design, sexy shape, and unlike the original WTC it doesn't look like it was built from Lego blocks.
Yes.....thats what I've always thought too. Those numbers would be much more appropriate and symbolic....1776 to symbolize the birth of the nation and 2001 to symbolize the year the towers were destroyed....but I'm just blabbing on because thats not whats going to be built. Hopefully we'll get a 'real' supertall in another part of Manhattan. I just hope theres a plague that wipes out all the NIMBY's first...that would sure help.

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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:13 PM   #4187
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Yes.....thats what I've always thought too. Those numbers would be much more appropriate and symbolic....1776 to symbolize the birth of the nation and 2001 to symbolize the year the towers were destroyed....but I'm just blabbing on because thats not whats going to be built. Hopefully we'll get a 'real' supertall in another part of Manhattan. I just hope theres a plague that wipes out all the NIMBY's first...that would sure help.
A "real supertall?" Wow, you really are a fool. All this talk about how awful NIMBYs are is pretty annoying too. They're not evil. They have their own reasons for opposing supertall construction, not that I agree with all of them.
What I notice about a lot of people on this blog is building TALL is the only thought, with no concern for building a more livable city. ***** envy, I suppose.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:23 PM   #4188
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A "real supertall?" Wow, you really are a fool. All this talk about how awful NIMBYs are is pretty annoying too. They're not evil. They have their own reasons for opposing supertall construction, not that I agree with all of them.
What I notice about a lot of people on this blog is building TALL is the only thought, with no concern for building a more livable city. ***** envy, I suppose.
Uhm, what do you think is the main appeal to foreign tourism of Manhattan? The nice 50m high buildings? I don't know how people in Brooklyn (where I suppose you are from) see it, but the in the rest of the world Manhattan always had the reputation of pretty much being "Skyscraper central". If you think they shouldn't try to maintain that reputation you must be seriously wanting to hurt your city's economy.

I for one think Manhattan should keep working on maintaining its reputation, and show Dubai what a REAL metropolis looks like.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:37 PM   #4189
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:38 PM   #4190
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originally i was opposed to yet another tower squeezed in, but after seeing this render from SSP, i completely change my mind!

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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:42 PM   #4191
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Uhm, what do you think is the main appeal to foreign tourism of Manhattan? The nice 50m high buildings? I don't know how people in Brooklyn (where I suppose you are from) see it, but the in the rest of the world Manhattan always had the reputation of pretty much being "Skyscraper central". If you think they shouldn't try to maintain that reputation you must be seriously wanting to hurt your city's economy.

I for one think Manhattan should keep working on maintaining its reputation, and show Dubai what a REAL metropolis looks like.
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Small thing. Don't ever say 'Dubai' in this topic. Somehow it works as gasoline on a fire. It's not hard to start a flamewar over here
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@philvia- That's an interesting rendering. I've heard a bit about the possiblity of adding anothr tower, is that about the size that they're thinking it might be?
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:58 PM   #4193
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@philvia- That's an interesting rendering. I've heard a bit about the possiblity of adding anothr tower, is that about the size that they're thinking it might be?
you are probably talking about 5WTC.
click the link for further info: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=489987

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Old April 3rd, 2008, 09:00 PM   #4194
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Small thing. Don't ever say 'Dubai' in this topic. Somehow it works as gasoline on a fire. It's not hard to start a flamewar over here
Thanks for the welcome.

As for flame wars... Well... I am quite a fan of skyscrapers simply for aesthetic reasons, but if some people want to make a personal issue out of it they kind of really, really, really need to get a life. I certainly wouldn't be upset by some geeks screaming "the skyscraper I like is better than the skyscraper you like!!", I sort of see myself being a bit above that, being adult and all, hehehe.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 09:30 PM   #4195
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you are probably talking about 5WTC.
click the link for further info: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=489987
No, their talking about moving the memorial, which leaves the area where it was going to go, open to another building.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 09:37 PM   #4196
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oh okay. i get it now thanx
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 10:07 PM   #4197
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Does anyone kind of feel sorry for One Liberty Plaza? The poor thing was built with a perfect view towards the original WTC, and now it's going to be looking at the back of WTC 4. Same thing with 22 Cortland Street. Such is life, I guess. :p
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Old April 4th, 2008, 01:38 AM   #4198
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Is that a joke? I can't tell because I wouldn't suggest something that stupid.
Why so harsh? After World War II, they didn't turn France, Germany and Russia into memorials, neither did they turn all of Central London into a memorial after the Bishopgate Bombings and the July 7th attacks.
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Old April 4th, 2008, 02:44 AM   #4199
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Does anyone kind of feel sorry for One Liberty Plaza?
No not the least bit. It replaced the beautiful Singer building so now it deserves what it gets.



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Old April 4th, 2008, 02:54 AM   #4200
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Yeah that's true. I think it's an ugly building - even uglier than the Deutsche Bank building.
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