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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:16 PM   #42001
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Current winds in NYC are 23mph with gusts to near 40mph. The forecast for the next couple days is the same. Will they do Mast work with those kinds of winds? ::sigh::
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:16 PM   #42002
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I really like the appearance of the grooves in the upper cladding but can't quite figure out what they really are. I'm thinking that they must be strips of glass without any tinting whatsoever that stand out in contrast to the blue tinted glass next to them. Is that right or are they something different?
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #42003
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Is level 12 still waiting on the platform to be placed. Anyway I am looking forward to the final installation of the antenna.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #42004
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No, the glass has a blue tint that's barely noticeable to the eye. Those grooves are actually slots, where there is no glass at all. Behind it there will be a louvered wall forming the plenum.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #42005
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A shot i grabbed from december 2011:

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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #42006
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Huh, not one side is 100% complete, all four sides are between 80% and 90% complete.
Mechanical cladding, not cladding as a whole.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #42007
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I get it.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #42008
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Agreed. This forum has been hi-jacked.
Probably not the best word choice.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #42009
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I been there and its very sure...i think!
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Old February 20th, 2013, 06:58 PM   #42010
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As someone who sees this building on a daily basis I can confidently say the mast does not look as bad as some are making it out to be. Sure, the radome would have looked a million times better, but theres nothing anyone can do. Once complete I think it will look pretty good!
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Old February 20th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #42011
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Probably not the best word choice.
On 2nd thought, probably right. The issue about the antenna/spire, has gotten us strayed away from the upshot of this thread, which is about the rest of this building, and we, or at least I am eagerly awaiting, the completion of the glass skin facade, to the very top. Even if the building itself, is not complete by then, it'll look even better from the outside, when that part is complete. Another major milestone.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #42012
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Just joined and as a NYC transplant to California, LOVE following the progress of 1WTC. Thanks everyone for the pictures! So amazing to get the skyline back.

You know, the banter about the spire is so interesting and makes me reflect on my childhood. When the WTC was completed, my parents took us kids down to the "fill" (what is now Battery Park City) circa 1972-ish. It was really just a huge field of dirt and sand and we had a BBQ. I'll never forget people complaining about the towers. Non-stop. "They don't match Manhattan"... "The most boring slab-sided buildings ever erected"... "They ruin NYC". On and on and on. Then, a few years later when they put the antenna on the north tower, people went berserk. Now, 40 years later, I bet all those folks miss the twin towers as much as I do... antenna and all.

As an engineer, I can tell you, I can't see HOW the radome could have possibly been maintained/repaired. I know many doubt the explanation by the builders but I have to say, it would have been impossible to clean/maintain/repair that multi-panel covering without erecting scaffolding or installing some kind of permanent "kangaroo crane". The other option would have been to affix the panels on the interior of a skeleton but that would present even greater challenges.

It's difficult to see it now, but believe me, once the temporary platforms are removed... and the cranes vanish... the design pattern from a distance (which is the view EVEYRYONE will see... not the close-ups posted here) will not look transparent... it will appear solid and actually resemble the original radome pattern... particularly since most people will be looking UP at the spire, not directly into it at close range.

The current design actually resembles the AT&T building antennas in SoHo... transparent and clunky zoomed in... but solid and patterned from afar:

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Old February 20th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #42013
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Welcome here and great first post, you are right about the spire, it is huge and visible from far away, and after a while everyone will get used to it.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #42014
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Eh it's kinda hard to see it from where I am about 25 miles. Probably will be easier once the cranes are dismantled
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Old February 21st, 2013, 12:14 AM   #42015
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This building will look great no matter what.

Besides, the only approval this building needs is from Tommy ******* Gavin.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 12:26 AM   #42016
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Does anybody know when the remainder sections of the mast will arrived ?
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Old February 21st, 2013, 12:40 AM   #42017
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We're getting some serious wind speeds.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 01:25 AM   #42018
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omg i must have one o_O

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Old February 21st, 2013, 01:38 AM   #42019
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You can also build one of the paper models you can find on SSC.

But I don't like these models, they look like there's no base cladding and the antenna looks fat.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 01:48 AM   #42020
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These models scare me.
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