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Old February 24th, 2013, 03:51 AM   #42121
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anyone know why new york has 2 central business districts? i rarely see something like that in other cities.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:03 AM   #42122
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anyone know why new york has 2 central business districts? i rarely see something like that in other cities.
it's just the way Manhattan developed. Downtown skyscrapers rose above wall street, in Midtown they popped up around major transport hubs.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:36 AM   #42123
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it's just the way Manhattan developed. Downtown skyscrapers rose above wall street, in Midtown they popped up around major transport hubs.

There is actually also a dip in the bedrock, so early skyscrapers were impractical to build, so none ever popped up and later ones never followed..

Midtown is more commercial/residential hub while downtown is a true CBD with exchanges and more corporate offices. The transportation hub used to be the countless railroad and other ferries downtown. The railroads and elevated and subways came later in the late 19th/early 20th century.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:39 AM   #42124
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Isn't that a myth?
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:47 AM   #42125
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Isn't that a myth?

I've seen geological maps of nyc, it isn't a myth.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:57 AM   #42126
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I mean this in the most respectful way, but that means absolutely nothing to the majority of us here. I was also under the impression that this was a myth. Can anyone confirm/varify?
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Old February 24th, 2013, 05:56 AM   #42127
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It is a myth. http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/0...d_toppling.php
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:09 AM   #42128
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No, it isn't. Some 6 sentence "news" bit does not replace actual geological maps. Nice try though.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:21 AM   #42129
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No, it isn't. Some 6 sentence "news" bit does not replace actual geological maps. Nice try though.



Perhaps you should post the "geological maps of Nyc" that you speak of.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:27 AM   #42130
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How do you get to the 1WTC cams, it just says "1WTC cam" then it stays black, I haven't that problem with 432
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:28 AM   #42131
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Perhaps you should post the "geological maps of Nyc" that you speak of.
If you want to see them you go look for them yourself. http://www.usgs.gov Have fun kid.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:39 AM   #42132
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No, it isn't. Some 6 sentence "news" bit does not replace actual geological maps. Nice try though.
http://www.fordham.edu/images/academ...r%20111710.pdf

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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:41 AM   #42133
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Combination of geology and construction efficiency. It remains more economical to raise a new tower where bedrock is nearest the surface.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #42134
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If you want to see them you go look for them yourself. http://www.usgs.gov Have fun kid.

Thanks for the useless link. The Manatee on the main page looks cool...I've had the chance to swim with them a few hundred times back when I lived in Florida. And BTW, if you are calling me a "kid", then you must be an old fart. I've got "kids" in high school
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:58 AM   #42135
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OnePoint, I looked over your Fordham-Rutgers pdf which appears to show - despite it's conclusions - that bedrock proximity established the concentration. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that several other considerations didn't come into play simultaneously, or that valuations don't capture site suitability.

It's simpler, of course, to say substrate drove development. And, yes, the picture's actually more interesting than that.

In the end, I think it depends on how much answer you want.

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Old February 24th, 2013, 08:21 AM   #42136
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More amazing images here:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/photo-ga.../#photo-612439
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Old February 24th, 2013, 08:27 AM   #42137
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Don't they also have hieght restrictions between Midtown and Downtown? The bedrock issue may have been a factor years ago, before more modern construction techniques were developed. But we are sorta getting off topic here..
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Old February 24th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #42138
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They have been working on this building for how long now? Any completion date?
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Old February 24th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #42139
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The whole building inside and outside will be open in 2014. Although the main structure will be finished this year. But I'm sure Otie can tell you more.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #42140
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I don't think this photo ever appeared on this forum!
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