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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:24 PM   #45361
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:30 PM   #45362
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How can they end cladding the 4 World Trade Center without any crane?
Because they don't use a crane for the cladding, at least no big one.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:36 PM   #45363
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Depending of the light and angle one WTC looks like in stainless steel!
That's why the industrial look of the antenna enhances that jewel.
By the way,thanks to all of you guys who post these amazing pic!
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:41 PM   #45364
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imho not even close
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:41 PM   #45365
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How can they end cladding the 4 World Trade Center without any crane?
There was a video back in july about how they put up cladding...

They used those little elevator thingys on the sides of the building to deliver the cladding, and then the workers install them on the floor itself.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:44 PM   #45366
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I think the cranes will go away after the spire and ring is all done.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:47 PM   #45367
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I think the cranes will go away after the spire and ring is all done.
I think that goes without saying. They're not gonna leave them up there for decoration...
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:51 PM   #45368
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Glass produced dangerous shards during the stress test.

The new base design IMO looks better anyway.
Someone on here linked to a news story a week or so ago about how a man was hired with the sole intention of saving money on the completion of this building. He was paid an exorbitant amount of money to "save" money. He scrapped the original glass on the base, squared it off, and got rid of the radome covering on the spire. Don't think for a second that these were safety or maintenance issues. It all boiled down to money.

EDIT: Here is the news article I mentioned. http://www.esquire.com/features/worl...ebuilding-0912

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As the estimate for completing the tower rose past $3 billion, the PA struck a deal in 2010 with a city real estate developer, the Durst Organization, to help finish, manage, and lease the tower: For $100 million, Durst received a 10 percent equity interest in the building, plus a $15 million management contract that gave Durst 75 percent of any monies saved by cutting construction costs up to $12 million, and a mere 50 percent of every penny cut thereafter.

To nobody's surprise and David Childs's despair, Durst found costs to cut, particularly at the top and bottom of the tower. The prismatic glass chosen to wrap the base of the building was replaced with a cheaper version, requiring that the corners of the tower's first two hundred feet be squared off after those corners had already been tapered to meet the thousand-foot isosceles triangles of the curtain wall. Then Durst took its meat-ax to the tower's 408-foot spire: By simply scrapping the radome — a sculpted shell of fiberglass and steel designed to sheathe the antennae and maintenance platforms atop the building — shazam! $20 million saved.

Childs learned from a Durst press report that the radome had been whacked, and issued a statement expressing his disappointment and his hope that SOM and the Port could find an alternate design. Durst claimed its radome decision was strictly about maintenance cost and safety, not money. Patrick Foye, current PA executive director, agreed, adding, "What was designed was impractical, unworkable, and quite frankly dangerous."

Considering that SOM has somehow managed to build and create maintenance plans for skyscrapers in many places for many years; and considering that Douglas Durst himself paid to place full-page ads in New York City newspapers in 2007, urging the new governor, Eliot Spitzer, to murder the tower; and considering that without the radome, what was a spire may be discounted as an antenna mast by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat — the arbiter of building heights — which would mean that the Freedom Tower won't officially stand 1,776 feet tall: Regarding all this, David Childs is mum. Circumspect. Or plain worn-out.

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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:56 PM   #45369
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This is OT... well maybe not. Amazing photo of Manhattan during Hurricane Sandy.

Iconic Hurricane Sandy photo of blacked-out NYC helps win “Cover of the Year” award
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news...er-of-the-year


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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:01 PM   #45370
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I think that goes without saying. They're not gonna leave them up there for decoration...
Well some people thought it would stay for cladding
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Oh sorry, forgot about your question in all of the chaos of this thread lately. The true pinnacle of the building will be in a height of 546 meters or 1792 feet according to CTBUH
Thanks for the answer! Does this include the lightning rod?
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:02 PM   #45372
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If the final section of the mast is schedule for Wednesday according to early forecast predictions their is going to be a 60% chance of rain,great move PA.
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Original Pic by: mazzway
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:03 PM   #45374
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If the final section of the mast is schedule for Wednesday according to early forecast predictions their is going to be a 60% chance of rain,great move PA.
Here is to have it up by July 4th!
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:12 PM   #45375
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Hey, guys. Incredible cladding progression on the NW facade today. Since yesterday, at least 20 more panels have been placed, and that side of the building looks nearly coplete.
You're talking about the SW section, I guess? Or do you have a camera pointed on the NW side?
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:23 PM   #45376
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Thanks for the answer! Does this include the lightning rod?
Yup, this is pinnacle height so it does include the rod
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:27 PM   #45377
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I know the reasons for why they did the mechanical floors where they did (I still love it) but the tower would have looked better if the vents where at the top.



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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:32 PM   #45378
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It would look better if they would be higher, though I'm glad that in the real 1WTC there are occupied floors above those mech floors. Having a higher occupied floor is in my opinion better than having a higher mech floor
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:32 PM   #45379
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Thanks for the answer! Does this include the lightning rod?
Yes, it is 1792 ft. to the tip of the lightning rod when measured from the plaza entrance on the south side of the building.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 07:41 PM   #45380
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If the final section of the mast is schedule for Wednesday according to early forecast predictions their is going to be a 60% chance of rain,great move PA.
The May 8th date is the time in which they should be ready to lift and attach it (crane jumped etcetera) not necessarily the date it would happen.
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