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Old May 15th, 2013, 10:46 PM   #46341
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hello!

it's my first post here after enjoying this forum over years

so I found a very nice slideshow with very impressive pictures:

http://www.zeit.de/reisen/2013-05/fs-world-trade-center

have a nice trip
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Old May 15th, 2013, 10:53 PM   #46342
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hello!

it's my first post here after enjoying this forum over years

so I found a very nice slideshow with very impressive pictures:

http://www.zeit.de/reisen/2013-05/fs-world-trade-center

have a nice trip
Welcome to the forum, but that photo is very old.

Edit. As posted below I missed the fact that is was a slide show. I guess I need to brush up on my German.
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Old May 15th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #46343
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Welcome to the forum, but that photo is very old.
that's right but please use the arrows in the upper right of this slideshow
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Old May 15th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #46344
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I will be in the minority but not only do I not mind the new antenna "design" or lacktherof, I think it fits the building and especially the city just fine. I think the thinness, the rings and sharply pointed cap give it a functional aesthetic. I never liked the thickly clad old design. It looked bulky and blunted, like somebody stuck a gaint joint on top of the building.

Frankly, not a lot of people outside of the number-obsessed skyscraper fanatics that congregate here and a few other forums really give that big of a crap about the rankings of heights of certain buildings. If officials want to tout the top-of-spire height as the building height because it is symbolic then that's perfectly ok. The people who do care about these things already know there are many different ways to measure the height of the building and to be wary of that when comparing.

Way to go NYC...lower Manhattan is now properly crowned again with a soaring monument of awe and inspiration!
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Old May 16th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #46345
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Old May 16th, 2013, 01:44 AM   #46346
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So are those temporary platform rings really gonna come down eventually? Based on how the spire has been treated so far, it seems that as long as it's cheaper - they'll be left up along with the doghouse and the construction workers...but if they's going to be taken down, I wonder how exactly that's gonna be executed. Someone also mentioned the antenna getting painted after assembly...is that really possible at this point?
Otie, would you have any ideas about this maybe?
The mast is already coated in a galvanized finish, no need to put an extra coat.

All temporary platfarm/catwalks will be eventually coming down, except for those located at transition areas.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:23 AM   #46347
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Does the camera on nyharborwebcam.com always point towards the Verazzano Bridge at night?
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:25 AM   #46348
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Forgive me for being a Negative Nancy, but I have lost all hope in the rebuilding of this entire complex. What was originally supposed to be a symbol of American resilience has mutated into a clusterf***k synonymous with the nation's upcoming downfall, complete with the leader's signature who presided over it all.

Most people seem to blame Wall Street "greed" for The Durst Organization's changes to the design, but understand in the realm of Wall Street, which said company is not a part of, greed is indeed good. It brought us many of New York's skyscrapers, all constructed properly no matter how vacant they were when completed. Afterall, the Empire State Building and original WTC weren't failed investments in the long-run. I'm not saying buildings should be built without committed future economic investment, but twenty-million dollars is chump change in Manhattan. Thanks a lot Douglas "Douchebag" Durst! Also, filling a building to fifty percent with some company already in the city isn't an accomplishment, nor a reason to cut costs.

China is looking better.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:26 AM   #46349
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Forgive me for being a Negative Nancy, but I have lost all hope in the rebuilding of this entire complex. What was originally supposed to be a symbol of American resilience has mutated into a clusterf***k synonymous with the nation's imminent downfall, complete with the signature of the leader who presided over it all.

Most people seem to be blaming Wall Street "greed" for all The Durst Organization changes, but understand in the realm of Wall Street, "greed is good." It was the same greed which brought us many tall buildings constructed properly, no matter how vacant they were when completed. Afterall, the Empire State Building and original WTC weren't failed investments in the long-run. I'm not saying empty buildings should be built, but twenty-million dollars is chump change in Manhattan. Thanks a lot douchebag Douglas Durst. Also, filling the building fifty percent isn't an accomplishment, nor a reason to cut cost.

China is looking better.
yea chinas so much better..fly into beijing without a mask let me know how that goes for you
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:39 AM   #46350
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hello everyone

this is my first post on these forums, i just joined though i have been monitoring the progress of the wtc for a while now. good to see these beautiful buildings rise!

i know this video is kind of old but i wanted to share it with those of you who may not have seen it yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzpyheliUcE
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:58 AM   #46351
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yea chinas so much better..fly into beijing without a mask let me know how that goes for you
If I want that kind of experience, I would go to New Jersey, TYVM.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 02:59 AM   #46352
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If I want that kind of experience, I would go to New Jersey, TYVM.
Clearly you've never been to either And your welcome
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:10 AM   #46353
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Clearly you don't understand sarcasm, and missed my point altogether. Since when is China's poor air quality related to skyscraper development?
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:37 AM   #46354
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If I want that kind of experience, I would go to New Jersey, TYVM.
At least New Jerseys fog is actually fog... unlike in china its all smog and pollution!
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #46355
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The mast is already coated in a galvanized finish, no need to put an extra coat.

All temporary platfarm/catwalks will be eventually coming down, except for those located at transition areas.
This seems to be correct?

Original image by John A. Dryzga

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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:43 AM   #46356
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Yes.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #46357
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To be very honest, It seems a bit overly dramatic that anyone would lose hope in the rebuilding of the entire complex over the design of one or two aspects of one tower.

Then we begin all this nonsense with China.

Some of you are just being pathetic.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 03:56 AM   #46358
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Thanks, otie.

And don't feed the trolls, people.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 04:02 AM   #46359
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Old May 16th, 2013, 04:28 AM   #46360
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To be very honest, It seems a bit overly dramatic that anyone would lose hope in the rebuilding of the entire complex over the design of one or two aspects of one tower.

Then we begin all this nonsense with China.

Some of you are just being pathetic.
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Thanks, otie.

And don't feed the trolls, people.
Trolls, no. Pathetic, no. Passionate, yes. It's not that "one or two aspects" of the tower being changed disheartens me, but they were told to us right after a time of optimism, when the tower surpassed the height of the Empire State Building and it was Bin Laden's first anniversary in hell. Everything was going as expected, and then a curveball is thrown, as if we were given the middle finger. I suppose the same can be said about the Burj Dubai when the name was changed right before it opened, but I don't really care about Dubai. Furthermore, Durst lied to us about why the changes were made and Foyer allowed the changes to be made, notwithstanding chief architect Childs' own dissent.

My China comment was one liner, so please don't take it too seriously. I was just inferring that watching Chinese skyscrapers constructed these days is more satisfying than Western ones that are either on hold or constantly changed.

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