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Old May 22nd, 2008, 04:38 PM   #4641
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FT will not be the tallest office building in the world, it might be the tallest office building in New York depending on if you count the antenna as a spire or not.
Can you point to one office building anywhere, in any state, over 1,776'?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 04:59 PM   #4642
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I have to say that I keep wishing that the Freedom Tower (1WTC) would be 1776ft @ roof & 2001ft @ spire tip.
I never thought of that. Those numbers would have a ton of signifigance to NYC and America. With that said, 1WTC as is will still be a nice fill to a void that is sorely missing downtown.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 06:27 PM   #4643
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Dubai Dubai Dubai!!!!!




On a serious note, I was wondering the same thing as well. I liked that last night picture that showed the new WTC 7. It's a nice looking building.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/...6aca0331_b.jpg

Does anyone know what building is going up in the background (center)?
Dubai is mixed use. I think that is why they can call WTC1 the "tallest" office tower.

And come on people, this is at least the fourth time in as many pages that people have asked about Goldman Sachs. Read the thread!
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 07:08 PM   #4644
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Goldman Sachs Headquarters. There is a thread for it:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=452972
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 09:17 PM   #4645
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I never thought of that. Those numbers would have a ton of signifigance to NYC and America. With that said, 1WTC as is will still be a nice fill to a void that is sorely missing downtown.
I agree completely
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:37 PM   #4646
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what the hell is a fake height the spire is on the building and it can't be removed, there for it' apart of the building. And the sear tower roof is higher then the freedom tower and that it. Theres no other planned office tower, that going to be taller the the FT. And if you don't pay taxes in NY you shouldn't care what we build in our city. I know it hurts but we can careless what you think.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:54 PM   #4647
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do most New yorkers support the freedom tower?
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 12:04 AM   #4648
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To roof and tallest floors there are many office buildings taller (ICC, 2IFC, Sears), so if people want to be proud to have a tallest with huge spire be proud of it but keep in mind the facts.

And before I become the bad guy here, I love NYC and Freedom Tower.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 12:30 AM   #4649
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To roof and tallest floors there are many office buildings taller (ICC, 2IFC, Sears), so if people want to be proud to have a tallest with huge spire be proud of it but keep in mind the facts.

And before I become the bad guy here, I love NYC and Freedom Tower.
ICC is mixed use and 2IFC is shorter that 1WTC... only the Sears is taller by roof.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 12:50 AM   #4650
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Alas for you, spires count. Whine all you want, Freedom Tower will be the tallest office building on earth in 2011 and on for however long and that statment is 100% correct. My god, I know it must be very hard for many people to accept that America has something that's the biggest or tallest or best, especially something stands for so much power, so I understand. This office complex is unmatched, and it will be roughly the same size as the old one, the biggest in the world again too. This project isn't medium or big; it's beyond that, and even beyond special. I think most would agree that office skyscrapers the best symbols of might and success.

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Old May 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM   #4651
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Must New yorkers are proud of the freedom tower and what it stand for, While must others don't care. New york is New york they build tall builds every year. And when the new WTC is finish, it will be just another part of NY. Must new yorkers didn't think much of the former WTC till it was gone. I mean it was a part of city, we thought would be there forever. I was a kid when I left the city but I still remember the last time I seen the old WTC in 1997. Now that I'm back out east I plan on visiting the new site as much as I can.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 06:39 AM   #4652
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Alas for you, spires count. Whine all you want, Freedom Tower will be the tallest office building on earth in 2011 and on for however long and that statment is 100% correct. My god, I know it must be very hard for many people to accept that America has something that's the biggest or tallest or best, especially something stands for so much power, so I understand. This office complex is unmatched, and it will be roughly the same size as the old one, the biggest in the world again too. This project isn't medium or big; it's beyond that, and even beyond special. I think most would agree that office skyscrapers the best symbols of might and success.
I don't see how this can be called a spire instead of what actually is, an antenna! A spire is integrated into the designing of the building, the original design of FT had an integrated design for its spire and was a much better design. The spire on the present design looks like it was just stuck on top to get to the desired height, it certainly doesn't blend into the rest of the building. I guess New York had to do something to get some kind of title back in the skyscraper category.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 07:51 AM   #4653
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If there is no radio equipment in the structure then it isn't an antenna.

It's not an antenna because you thought one of the other design's was better integrated.

It isn't an antenna if you dislike the building. It WOULD be an antenna if it's sole purpose was for communication, however alas that is not the case in point.

It is a spire. Get over it.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 08:28 AM   #4654
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^Thank you!

I for one cannot wait to see the progress made here in the next couple of months. Seeing those first few beams pop up over street level was amazing eye candy for me.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 09:25 AM   #4655
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hey man I just watch the king kong 1976 were he goes up the first WTC. classic trash movie but the building look great
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Old May 24th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #4656
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today by Scruffy, SSP...one more steelbeam has reached streetlevel :

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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM   #4657
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Finally some progress!
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Old May 25th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #4658
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any pics of the contruction site's toilets?
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Old May 25th, 2008, 03:02 AM   #4659
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don't be a ass. they crap in holes in the ground not toilets like u suggested lol.
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Old May 25th, 2008, 05:58 AM   #4660
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I have a curiosity...How many inches will the tower be once fully erected?
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