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Old May 31st, 2013, 11:49 AM   #46881
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Of course. But it's pretty ignorant to say the building isn't dominate, we all know 1 WTC is much smaller than the twins.... Although, the pictures below your post speak for themselves and that's only half of what we're getting.

I understand your feelings for the twins but you have to know that they're gone and aren't coming back. These are beautiful buildings and IMO a proper replacement.
I know the twins are gone, i didn't bring the twins into this discussion in the first place, you did. I simply said 2WTC should have been the main tower and 1WTC should have taken 2WTC's place seeing how it's gonna steal the spotlight anyway.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 11:53 AM   #46882
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I just can't believe this building is so close to completion after all these years! With the cladding done (except the elevator) I can almost feel it! It's so beautiful
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Old May 31st, 2013, 01:31 PM   #46883
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Old May 31st, 2013, 01:52 PM   #46884
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lol, why are lots of people commenting about the cladding being done? Not a single floor on the entire building is fully clad. Besides the elevator, there is also the base to clad.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 02:13 PM   #46885
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Am I the only one who see "legs" here?
Nope. That was the first association I had, too. Either women dancing or desperately trying to hold up their pee...
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Old May 31st, 2013, 02:34 PM   #46886
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Kanto are you telling me you like Foster's proposal ? but you don't like the Chrysler Building ?
Yup, somthing like that. They aren't a masterpiece but they still look good and the best thing about them is that they are twins and that they are taller than the old twins. These two things alone make them a far better replacement than what we're getting

Also, I like the World Cultural Center as well and hate Pataki for sabotaging it because from what I heard it was just about to win the proposal choice
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Old May 31st, 2013, 05:50 PM   #46887
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I know the twins are gone, i didn't bring the twins into this discussion in the first place, you did. I simply said 2WTC should have been the main tower and 1WTC should have taken 2WTC's place seeing how it's gonna steal the spotlight anyway.
You've completely misunderstood my post.

This diagram will show you why the buildings are built as is, height, location. Rearranging the buildings or building something entirely else will ruin the overall site.



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Old May 31st, 2013, 06:04 PM   #46888
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They have not, to my knowledge been shown in renderings, Otie and I have seen them in architectural diagrams uploaded by the late ZenSteelDude. They direct humid air away from the equipment on the rings and also allow the steam to be released above the building and blow away. We can only tell what they look like on the black and white diagrams. I added a structural system of U channels to simulate what is seen in the diagrams.
Thanks. I never noticed them before on his plans but I see them now. Easy to miss. Depending on how they look they might do a decent job making the rings appear a little beefier, and they also answer my questions about the exhaust being directly underneath a bunch of electrical and broadcast equipment.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 06:28 PM   #46889
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¿From the midtown with the 2 WTc at side of 1 WTc is not the same vision like the old WTC?
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Old May 31st, 2013, 06:39 PM   #46890
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You've completely misunderstood my post.

This diagram will show you why the buildings are built as is, height, location. Rearranging the buildings or building something entirely else will ruin the overall site.



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Sorry but Libsekind's site plan is just horrible and the reflections off of tower 2 are nothing more than a lame excuse for Larry trying hard to make the new WTC as uniconic as possible. The designs of the towers are awesome but the site plan and the building's heights are a catastrophe

As to domination, in my opinion 1WTC is more dominating than one of the Twins would be because of its tappering, however both Twins together were more dominating than 1WTC simply because there were 2 of them
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Old May 31st, 2013, 07:24 PM   #46891
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Well done to Benson for meeting their May deadline for cladding installation should look superb for summer
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Old May 31st, 2013, 07:50 PM   #46892
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Actually, thinking back, this one might not have been too bad.

Sure, it's a little tacky and ostentacious, especially with a name like the World Cultural Center; but it's probably not much more so than the Calatrava transit station.

If that design had been picked; we would not have had such long delays in terms of getting the WTC up and running. The smaller towers in that design housed the vast majority of the office space, and could be built on market demand. The main visual elements that make an impact on the skyline would have been complete already, since these are structures that housed the memorial, museum, and other public venues, and would have had a lot less trouble sailing through the port authority and political establishment mess.


Not for replacing the originals. Wasted space with the hollow towers. As for market demand, the hell with that. A special place, just because of the circumstances, stands in the way of demand, as well it should. I very much appreciate the special priority put on height and design of the #1 tower. Not everybody likes its design, but not everybody liked the originals either. As for shorter office towers, no. We mustn't back down to terrorists, regardless of market demand.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 07:55 PM   #46893
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Sorry but Libsekind's site plan is just horrible and the reflections off of tower 2 are nothing more than a lame excuse for Larry trying hard to make the new WTC as uniconic as possible. The designs of the towers are awesome but the site plan and the building's heights are a catastrophe

As to domination, in my opinion 1WTC is more dominating than one of the Twins would be because of its tappering, however both Twins together were more dominating than 1WTC simply because there were 2 of them
The tapering design, is more distinctive than the originals, so that is how it stands out. Perhaps it possesses, a little less in the way of office space, but I actually like the design. I was glad Liebeskind's design was over-ridden. His original was a night-mare, and who can blame Silverstein for wanting to make it as iconic as possible? I actually like the idea of the sunlight ricocheting off the diamond shaped tower, into the pools. The only problem, is it is just taking too damn long for it to find a tenant.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 08:02 PM   #46894
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lol, why are lots of people commenting about the cladding being done? Not a single floor on the entire building is fully clad. Besides the elevator, there is also the base to clad.
All that's left is zipping up the zipper. That is what that temporary construction outside elevator makes it look like.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 08:05 PM   #46895
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No twin. Number one, this is NOT the original Twin Towers. This is a completely new WTC. It is supposed to represent rebirth, a renaissance, like a Phoenix who has risen from the ashes of destruction. The Twins are gone. This Tower is meant to stand alone as a solemn tribute to the memory of the twins, but it is also meant to revive the WTC with new life. The new design with WTC1,2, 3, and 4 is supposed to represent a spiral like design that flows to the Memorial Pools.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 09:21 PM   #46896
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Spire Rising: Complete One WTC Spire Time-Lapse

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Old May 31st, 2013, 09:32 PM   #46897
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the heat is on in NY today, welcome Summer. Despite the haze I spotted 1WTC and it's spire from the GWB
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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:11 PM   #46898
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You've completely misunderstood my post.

This diagram will show you why the buildings are built as is, height, location. Rearranging the buildings or building something entirely else will ruin the overall site.
Ironic you say i misunderstood your post when in fact you took my post and turned it into something else entirely. My point was that 1WTC isn't dominating. It's okay if you disagree.
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Holy crap I'm dying in this heat...the building looked gorgeous from the ramp leading into the Lincoln Tunnel yesterday.......I'll post a pic soon
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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:20 PM   #46900
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The tapering design, is more distinctive than the originals, so that is how it stands out.
I find this interesting. Care to elaborate as to how it is more distinctive and unique?
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