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Old March 30th, 2007, 01:31 PM   #461
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Those chinese cities have the room to build anywhere they wish and they dont have to mind possible monuments like the ESB or the woolworth building... NYC is old an has so many monuments that it is difficult to build something.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:38 PM   #462
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Absolutely right... When China has to decide between building a new tower or keeping a structure that has been there for possibly 100 years, then I'll be impressed.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #463
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Stating the cause of a city's lack of comparable development doesn't negate it. If New York is falling behind, it's because of the old monuments that have to be avoided and such - but that doesn't mean it isn't falling behind.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #464
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its gonna look great, spire is sort of annoying though. seems like we pu$$y'd out or something, you know? for example hong kongs ICC and shanghai's SWFC own this tower... maybe for this sacred site height was not an issue though. a classy design, IMO. we already know what u.s. cities are capable of in terms of architecture.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #465
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great update! hope it'll rise now
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Old March 30th, 2007, 08:20 PM   #466
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Stating the cause of a city's lack of comparable development doesn't negate it. If New York is falling behind, it's because of the old monuments that have to be avoided and such - but that doesn't mean it isn't falling behind.
Say, didn't your mother ever tell you that just because someone jumps off of a bridge your gonna follow them too? Jesus, this isn't follow the leader here.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 08:48 PM   #467
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seems like it's almost ready to rise!!
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Old March 30th, 2007, 08:55 PM   #468
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Say, didn't your mother ever tell you that just because someone jumps out of a bridge your gonna follow them too? Jesus this isn't follow the leader here.
Sorry, what? What leader was I following? And how do you jump OUT of a bridge? And.. oh, too many confusions have arisen from that post, I'm gonna leave the rest alone - back to the topic at hand, sorry everyone.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 11:25 PM   #469
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New York has style, history.... Dubai.... it's a "fugazy" if you ask me.
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Old March 31st, 2007, 02:45 AM   #470
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And how do you jump OUT of a bridge? .
Ive done it....once. cant remember exactly how I did it though, and the landing was violent
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Old March 31st, 2007, 03:49 AM   #471
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New York has style, history.... Dubai.... it's a "fugazy" if you ask me.
By fugazy, I believe u mean to offned Dubai, I am 100% with you man... Dubai is cool, but Its a poser city
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Old March 31st, 2007, 09:02 PM   #472
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This tower better to get built! I know they already started the construction but I hope it will not be on hold again like they always.
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Old March 31st, 2007, 10:31 PM   #473
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This tower better to get built! I know they already started the construction but I hope it will not be on hold again like they always.
I dont want to jinx anything, but I think that construction wont end on the WTC site until it is completed in 2013
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Old March 31st, 2007, 11:57 PM   #474
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don't think that tower will be completed until 2013...more 2015 or later
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Old April 1st, 2007, 12:19 AM   #475
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or it could be never completed, too.
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Old April 1st, 2007, 06:29 AM   #476
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WTF? When is that word, T-O-W-E-R has became a bad word?
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Old April 1st, 2007, 06:30 AM   #477
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I dont want to jinx anything, but I think that construction wont end on the WTC site until it is completed in 2013
Or later than 2013...
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Old April 1st, 2007, 11:08 AM   #478
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WTF? When is that word, T-O-W-E-R has became a bad word?
A-p-r-i-l - Joke maybe
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:27 PM   #479
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^ the americans??? HARDLY...those designs were not chosen by the "Americans" but by a small committee of political *******s....I guess you don't know the whole story behind the desings!! Most new Yorkers hate that final design....including that terrible :Freedom Tower" name...yuk
HEY , TowersNYC !
TELL ME SOMETHING , WERE THOSE MEMBERS OF THE "SMALL COMMITTEE " BY ANY CHANCE WERE BRITISH , GERMAN , FRENCH , BELGIAN , NORWEGIANS, SPANISH , ITALIANS , FINNISH , AUSTRIANS , ESKIMOES OR PERHAPS TIMBOCTOUANS ?
IF THIS PERHAPS IS THE CASE , THEN IT IS PLAIN INDEED THAT AMERICAN HISTORICAL REPRESENTATION CAN EASILY BE DISTORTED BY PEOPLE OUTSIDE THEIR OWN RACE
WITHOUT MUCH AS A WHIMPER OF PROTEST FROM THESE YANKS.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:32 PM   #480
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New Yorkers dont like the name or the design. We want our twins back, period. Regardless, something has to go up and this is what we got, got it? now please just shut the **** up.

over at WNY Vengineer has all the inside info on the tower. as stated awhile ago, the design for the roof and spire is still being done, and this is what Vengineer came up with.

"I looked thru the spire schematics to address londonlawyer's question... and theres a drawing that shows a new design for the base of the spire with the annotation: "new ring". I haven't checked up on this project in a while and its dated december of last year. Maybe this is a new design.

I like this base alot. The change is nothing drastic but the inward angle of the ring accentuates the angles of the tower. Everythings going in the same direction now. It looks like a round nozzle... like that of a jet... no longer a retarded donut.



I also like the cable-stayed look of the support cables. There are numerous cables zig zagged giving it a solid yet transparent look of a continuous ascending spire. You guys should see the lighting equipment they're planning on mounting on this thing. Looks like they're going forward with the light show. "
HEY SPOOKYMAN , YOU MUST BE LOOKING DOWN YOUR BACKSIDE FOR INSPIRATION WHEN YOU COMPOSED THIS ARTICLE
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