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Old October 28th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #51161
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Hopefully more opinions will change once towers 2 and 3 join the skyline.
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Old October 28th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #51162
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That scumbag vandal Banksy sticks his foot in it again:

http://gawker.com/banksy-bashes-desi...err-1452960050

I hope the NYPD find him and throw him in prison.
One World Trade Center is one of the best buildings in the world. This guy has no brain! And Canada? Is that an insult to Canada or the building? Because Canada is a GREAT country. Let's see HIM find a better replacement for the world trade center.

And I think this article is disrespectful to America! He's committing treason! If we got one of the older designs he would probably hate the building so much! What a disgrace!
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #51163
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And I think this article is disrespectful to America! He's committing treason! If we got one of the older designs he would probably hate the building so much! What a disgrace!
Not sure you can commit treason if you are a foreigner: he's British.

(cue the 'ZOMG Britain has like no skyscrapers America ftw the Shard is horrible )
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #51164
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #51165
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:32 AM   #51166
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #51167
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Banksy artwork takes a swipe at design of new World Trade Centre
You know, people do this, and it's not new. To be honest, the original towers weren't necessarily beautiful or [initially] that special either judging from opinion at the time. They were kind of oddities; "just glass-and-metal filing cabinets." - Lewis Mumford

People complain. I mean, he makes social commentary through art. Is it at all surprising he doesn't find it evocative enough? He's had his say, but there's nothing to be done about it.

I don't know why we need to have this row every few weeks. Some people like it, some people hate it, but it's here to stay.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #51168
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One World Trade Center is one of the best buildings in the world. This guy has no brain! And Canada? Is that an insult to Canada or the building? Because Canada is a GREAT country. Let's see HIM find a better replacement for the world trade center.

And I think this article is disrespectful to America! He's committing treason! If we got one of the older designs he would probably hate the building so much! What a disgrace!
I think you need to revisit the definition of treason.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 01:04 AM   #51169
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There is no need to start criticizing the author of the article. Different people have different opinions, and with so many people in the world, there must be an opinion out there that most people disagree. I'm not saying I agree with the author of the article, but there won't be any use blaming people.

I do, however, completely disagree with the author of the article.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 02:06 AM   #51170
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I know, but it rather stinks that the rest of the towers except for tower 4,
won't be completed very soon. So, it still leaves a hole in the skyline though!

The media attention around 1 WTC is exaggerated. I know the building looks hot and attractive with it's glass facade and all!
But, I have to agree that tower 2, 3 and 4 look really good as well. All of the towers share the same story and
are a big part of Libeskind's master plan and the realisation of it.

So, it is just sad to see that we have to look at this for the near future:

The new WTC is nothing, if the rest of the towers are not completed!

I have to agree with Banksy. I just think that this new tower, alone, just doesn't
cut it; ''that it's replacing the Twin Towers''. But, to call the new tower ugly,
is a little bit harsh it seems.
In fairness, 1-WTC was completed and topped off! And is still the most iconic of The WTC projects.

I would be more disappointed if it was built last!

We had a similar building planned for Manila right near The Makati CBD but ours is 320m. It's The Lopez Centre.



Planned back in the late 90s, this tower was also design by the same architectural firm that designed 1-WTC and it would serve as the foundation to this building.



It was part of The Rockwell Centre Development. The only thing is that, Lopez Centre never got built while the rest of the skyscrapers here were completed.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 02:36 AM   #51171
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One World Trade Center is one of the best buildings in the world. This guy has no brain! And Canada? Is that an insult to Canada or the building? Because Canada is a GREAT country. Let's see HIM find a better replacement for the world trade center.

And I think this article is disrespectful to America! He's committing treason! If we got one of the older designs he would probably hate the building so much! What a disgrace!
Classic overzealous American Patriotism

"If this is what America gets then we love it!" (Even if it's crap and a cop-out). "And if you disagree then you're un-American." It's the standard "You're either with us or against us." mentality. No room for honest criticism or an open dialogue. No acceptance of a fair and balanced viewpoint. How very Republican of you.

And yes, the new WTC is scaled back from what it would have been if conceived in the 2000's. Bare with me on the explanation:

If they were building the World Trade Centre today, for the first time as if the original never existed and 9/11 also never happened, then to be as impressive and domineering as the original was to contemporary architecture and engineering circa 1966, today it would have to be on the scale of two Burj Khalifas only with comparable bulk as the Willis Tower.

When, what you got (and are getting when complete), is something that looks like it could be built today in ANY major World city. At the time, (c1960's-70's) only New York was big enough and bold enough to build the Twins and its surrounding complex. It shocked the world of architecture and made architects re-think what "big" was. The new complex is nice, however it fails to "shock" anyone. Nor will it cause architecture to re-think itself around the World.

That is what Banksy is implying. And from a World-view, he is correct.

You are allowed to like, love, respect this tower with all your being, but professing it is the equivalent or even surpasses the impact of what the original did, is delusional. The truth is a bitter pill for deluded patriots to swallow. So I assume you will most likely avoid this medicine and continue in your delusions. Good luck with that.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 02:48 AM   #51172
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Jesus Christ!

I really wish Riley wouldn't have posted that article. We don't need people flaming one another over an authurs arrogance.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 03:03 AM   #51173
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Old October 29th, 2013, 03:04 AM   #51174
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(cue the 'ZOMG Britain has like no skyscrapers America ftw the Shard is horrible )
The Shard would be an amazing addition to the Brooklyn skyline. :-)
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Old October 29th, 2013, 03:28 AM   #51175
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I have an idea, how about we move on before that article is quoted for the 10th time..
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Old October 29th, 2013, 03:31 AM   #51176
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Old October 29th, 2013, 04:02 AM   #51177
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Jesus Christ!

I really wish Riley wouldn't have posted that article. We don't need people flaming one another over an authurs arrogance.
You must be a fan of FOX News as well. God forbid BOTH sides of an argument be mentioned. Only post opinions that agree with your viewpoint. As I mentioned above:

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Old October 29th, 2013, 04:15 AM   #51178
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You don't know anything about me. So don't make wild accusations about me. And no, I don't watch Fox News.

But I know much about you that I'm not even going to have a conversation with you.

Your antics over at SSP could STAY over at SSP.

And if you bothered to read my last few posts, you'll see I could give a crap about anyone's views on the complex.

The issue had nothing to do with not having a voice, it was the arrogant, disrespectful and unprofessional words he used.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 04:18 AM   #51179
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Ironically enough, that was your 666th post.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 04:21 AM   #51180
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Ironically enough, that was your 666th post.


Haha, good catch!!
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