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Old August 7th, 2008, 02:32 AM   #5421
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The design of new WTC is ok, but here is something that I would like more:

Imagine this tower at 1776 ft.

A combination of Old Word Trade Cennter, Chrysler Building and Empire State Building.




Oh yeah! Much nicer design, maybe someday soomeone will build that one.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 02:38 AM   #5422
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I like this design too. Anyhow, I like the cluster of the twin towers. Single skyscaper seems lonely to me.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 02:44 AM   #5423
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Daniel Libeskind was last place - yet he was the chosen one!

The day the voices of the people were silenced was a sad day indeed.

I am pleased that the Libeskind design was redesigned - silly wedge of light that had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 02:55 AM   #5424
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All these renders of the new WTC are boring and without life of their own .... It was a mistake when SOM took control over the hole plan. How come we went from greatness to the below average and boring designs..??? Where is Daniel Libeskind....???




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Old August 7th, 2008, 02:56 AM   #5425
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The design of new WTC is ok, but here is something that I would like more. A combination of Old Word Trade Cennter, Chrysler Building and Empire State Building.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/h5forem/ny.jpg
That's a clever idea but i'm sure that the silhouette of this design will exactly look like ESB.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 03:00 AM   #5426
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That's a clever idea but i'm sure that the silhouette of this design will exactly look like ESB.
Exactly what I thought, if you glance quickly at that model then you could easily be mistaken for thinking it's the ESB
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Old August 7th, 2008, 03:05 AM   #5427
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You like this better than the new?
Agreed 110%
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Old August 7th, 2008, 03:59 AM   #5428
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You like this better than the new?
I was wondering too.

The old design was yet another obnoxious sculpture inconsiderate of the overall project. The new FT design is great, and has great synergy with the whole WTC complex. I especially like Tower 2.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 04:09 AM   #5429
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I was wondering too.

The old design was yet another obnoxious sculpture inconsiderate of the overall project. The new FT design is great, and has great synergy with the whole WTC complex. I especially like Tower 2.
Thank you!

Always good to hear from a real skyscraper fan!
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:07 AM   #5430
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You have to understand that the WTC is the WTC. It's located in the financial district surrounded by modern, post-modern and gothic skyscrapers. Your not going to get futuristic designs for major white collar firms like Merrill Lynch.
If you want an amazing life-like skyscraper look to midtown and the beautiful MoMa expansion... Tower Verre.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:14 AM   #5431
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Daniel Libeskind's design for the Freedom Tower is 20 times better that whatever the office of David Childs and SOM decided to build. Of course, this after getting rid of Libeskind by virtue of ""larry silverstein " . That is clearly a LACK of Integrity from both individuals.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:20 AM   #5432
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You have to understand that the WTC is the WTC. It's located in the financial district surrounded by modern, post-modern and gothic skyscrapers. Your not going to get futuristic designs for major white collar firms like Merrill Lynch.
If you want an amazing life-like skyscraper look to midtown and the beautiful MoMa expansion... Tower Verre.
Exactly.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:23 AM   #5433
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The first freedom tower design made me sick to my stomach. It had no business getting pick. That trash would of made NYC the laughing stock of the world. The new FT put NYC in a class by it's self. This building belongs in this city what more can I say then that.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:32 AM   #5434
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The first freedom tower design made me sick to my stomach. It had no business getting pick. That trash would of made NYC the laughing stock of the world. The new FT put NYC in a class by it's self. This building belongs in this city what more can I say then that.
Libeskind's design was the best, though I'm sure that if used now most of the Freedom Tower would have been changed from the empty glass to offices. I would hope that it would've retained is design though. Oh well. The current design isn't too much worse either. I am very pleased with it actually.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:49 AM   #5435
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I don't understand why WTC #1 needs to be called "Freedom", unless they mean the freedom we lost on 9/11 - if you ask me, it's WTC #1.
Hmm my thoughts exactly i mean they hate us for our freedoms so i guess they don't hate us anymore? Thanks G Dub!
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:49 AM   #5436
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Exactly.

Can't disagree with Aizen-sama, yet...

Daniel Libeskind's design is HISTORY, and if you can't accept it, you DON'T BELONG HERE. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOU WHINE.

One world-class architect VS a plethora of world-class architects. Wow, such a hard pick.

But don't get sad! Daniel Libeskind is currently designing one or two really tall skyscrapers for NYC right now.

This thread, as far as I know, is about the Freedom Tower - you know - the Childs version which is GOING UP NOW.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:54 AM   #5437
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The first freedom tower design made me sick to my stomach.
Agreed!

I recall meeting up with a friend at the public display of the contest winner located at the WFC in particular how awful the design was.

We were hoping that somehow, the design could be changed drastically.

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It had no business getting pick.
You are correct.

That design was publicly voted last place!

But it was not about the public opinion, it was about politics.

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That trash would of made NYC the laughing stock of the world.
The so-called "Family of the victims" made a spectacle out of the site, with their desire to prevent any skyscraper from ever taking place on their "sacred ground"!

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The new FT put NYC in a class by it's self.
Agreed.

While my friend simply wanted the twin towers rebuilt, I realized that the new design was turning out to look pretty good, with real office floors reaching the roof, now it was time to let go of the past (and an old friend) by moving ahead.

Some people will never change, some of us will.

What is "New" about New York is the new and improved World Trade Center.
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One thing we can be thankful to Liebeskind for is the broad site layout ie. Freedom Tower to the north of the twin towers footprints, and towers 2-4 across a reinstated Greenwhich Street.

His first design of Freedom Tower was horrid. Thank god it never got started.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #5439
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His first design of Freedom Tower was horrid. Thank god it never got started.
Amen to that!

I am just glad that construction is a reality now.

When the tower is complete, there will be opportunities for jobs in those buildings - let us hope this will help our nation!
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Old August 7th, 2008, 10:57 AM   #5440
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I don't like calling this 'The Freedom Tower', I don't understand the name at all. More and more people are calling it 1WTC. But to what someone said above, this isn't going to stand on its own, its got 5 beautiful new skyscrapers in the WTC (possibly 6 if they build on the PAC site, or 99 Church Street becomes 6WTC), plus many other new skyscrapers around the WTC. Will loook fantastic when its all done.
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