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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:30 PM   #41
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I heard that it may not rise until after the NY Mets win another World Series.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 10:00 PM   #42
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^Real funny!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 10:41 PM   #43
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I heard that it may not rise until after the NY Mets win another World Series.


Ok, im a Mets fan now : )

GO METS !!!!!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 11:48 PM   #44
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Dogs have jumped off 600 ft cliffs before, sometimes they are chasing a bird or a leaf...
Gotcha. Let's fence off all the cliffs in the world, so random dogs don't go hopping into them. I'll get started on the Grand Canyon right away.

And let's cancel all planes while we're at it too. Cause, you know, they crash once in a while. Oh yes, cars, those evil things, those murder machines, let's outlaw them too. Then we'll live in even more of a nice little papmered world.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 07:18 AM   #45
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How deep will those waterfalls be?
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:30 PM   #46
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This will be one massive tower . Good design, unsure about if it would be better to have a twinset like altin said.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #47
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I heard that it may not rise until after the NY Mets win another World Series.
well they almost won the NLCS last year
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Old December 15th, 2006, 01:47 AM   #48
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Gotcha. Let's fence off all the cliffs in the world, so random dogs don't go hopping into them. I'll get started on the Grand Canyon right away.

And let's cancel all planes while we're at it too. Cause, you know, they crash once in a while. Oh yes, cars, those evil things, those murder machines, let's outlaw them too. Then we'll live in even more of a nice little papmered world.
you laugh now, but when your dog chases a leaf and hops into the grand canyon you'll look back to this thread and cry. let's build this fence.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 03:44 AM   #49
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No one should really complain about the spire.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM   #50
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The first steel columns that will frame the 1,776-foot-tall Freedom Tower are arriving in lower Manhattan this weekend and victims' loved ones and average New Yorkers are invited to sign the 30-ton girders on Sunday.

The first three steel columns will be erected on Monday.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:58 PM   #51
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A dog runs and jumps into the pit, the child chases after the dog and falls into the pit.

I suppose the child and his/her dog both deserved it, eh?
Dog shoulda been on a leash...If it was on a leash then whoever was holding it was not holding tight enough. Also kid should have used their brain and not chased the dog. Of course it is all the city's fault and the kid's parents should sue the shit out of New York..
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Old December 15th, 2006, 08:22 PM   #52
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New York City braces for construction chaos

By Amy Thomson
BLOOMBERG NEWS
Published December 15, 2006


NEW YORK -- The bankers, traders and residents of Lower Manhattan are about to find out what it's like to be in the vortex of the most concentrated construction zone in New York City's history.
As many as 9,000 trucks a month will rumble through the district, hauling concrete, glass and metal. The amount of steel earmarked for the area will be enough to build Kuala Lumpur's twin 88-story Petronas Towers more than six times.

Most of the supplies will be headed over the next five years for ground zero, the site of the destroyed World Trade Center that will be home to the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower, five adjacent skyscrapers, a transportation center and a memorial to the victims of September 11.
About 50 Lower Manhattan projects, costing $20 billion, are planned or under way, including the ground zero construction, a new headquarters for Goldman Sachs Group Inc., and new underground water pipes, subway stations, parks and residential buildings. Getting around will become a challenge.
"The amount of construction that's ongoing in one square mile is unprecedented," said Charles Maikish, 60, a former JPMorgan Chase & Co. vice president who now heads the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center. "The Trade Center site itself is the epicenter."
The command center is a city-state agency overseeing the neighborhood's development, including any project south of Canal Street costing more than $25 million.
On Nov. 17, more than two years after the Adirondack granite cornerstone for Freedom Tower was laid, 70 trucks lumbered into ground zero to begin pouring the concrete base for the building.
The construction, involving a peak labor force of 7,100, will disrupt the lives of more than 438,000 daily mass-transit commuters for the next five years, according to LiRo Group, a New York construction management company working with the city command center.
Merrill Lynch & Co., whose headquarters overlook ground zero, already lists neighborhood road closures and demolition projects in its monthly employee newsletter.
"We get our employees and clients in and out," said Mike Cowan, senior vice president for the world's biggest brokerage firm. "And our employees are a pretty rugged bunch."
Merrill Lynch is holding talks to move its headquarters to a new building on the World Trade Center site, according to two persons with knowledge of the discussions. Merrill spokeswoman Selena Morris said the company, whose lease expires in 2013, is "evaluating our options."
Goldman Sachs plans to begin moving into its new $2 billion, 43-story headquarters a few blocks away by 2009.
This month, trucks began delivering 3,000 tons of steel beams for the base of Freedom Tower. The beams, each up to 40 feet long and weighing as much as 35 tons, were made in Luxembourg by Arcelor. The Luxembourg company has one of only three or four foundries in the world equipped to handle steel beams that size.
The beams were then sent to Lynchburg, Va., where they were trimmed and welded by another company, Banker Steel LLC, which handled the steel for the original twin towers.
The command center has coordinated details such as controlling the number of trucks rolling through Manhattan at any one time and determining what streets are wide enough for them, said Josh Rosenbloom, 28, director of city operations at the center.
Sensors throughout the area, using video cameras and microwave technology, will measure the volume of vehicles and their speed, Mr. Rosenbloom said, helping police to fix traffic snags.
"Everyone has to work together to maintain mobility," said Mr. Rosenbloom. "Otherwise the whole thing will come to a screeching halt."
Once in Manhattan, trucks, supplies and workers headed for the 16-acre World Trade Center site must pass security inspections.
Carmine Castellano, construction superintendent for Freedom Tower, said he has never been on a site like this one in more than 20 years in the business. Mr. Castellano said guards search his crews' trucks daily. Identification badges, which are issued after a background check and a training class, must be visible at all times.
"You've got to have patience," he said. "Think of where you're working and what we're building."
Jake Zamansky, a principal in the Zamansky & Associates law firm, lives and works in Tribeca -- now a quiet neighborhood just north of ground zero.
"It's going to be hard to live and work down here for a while," Mr. Zamansky said. "It was really a disaster in those first couple of months after September 11. All day and night, every major artery was being used to take the debris out."
When the second plane crashed into the World Trade Center in the 2001 terrorist attack, Mr. Zamansky said he watched from his office four blocks away. Today, he said, he can put up with any inconvenience to build the area back up.
"It's definitely worth it, number one, to show the terrorists that they haven't succeeded in changing the face of New York on a permanent basis," he said. "They haven't been able to dislodge me. My whole life is downtown."
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Old December 15th, 2006, 09:34 PM   #53
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9000 trucks a month isn't really alot. One of the motorways near me has 180,000 vehicle's using it everyday. That's like 5.4 Million Vehicles a day and 1/4 of those must be trucks.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 02:05 AM   #54
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9000 trucks a month isn't really alot. One of the motorways near me has 180,000 vehicle's using it everyday. That's like 5.4 Million Vehicles a day and 1/4 of those must be trucks.
Are all those vehicles on that motorway going to the same construction site? Comparing apples to oranges.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 03:06 AM   #55
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These are construction designated vehicles, andy. Construction....
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Old December 16th, 2006, 04:34 AM   #56
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Although this article is more on Deustche Bank, it does talk about leading to a chain reaction on the rest of the WTC site.
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_18...tdeutsche.html
Volume 19 | Issue 33 | December 15 - 21, 2006

Workers walk at Deutsche

The delay-plagued removal of the former Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty St. hit yet another bizarre snag this week as a subcontractor pulled its workers off the site just days after deconstruction had begun.

On Dec. 8, with final permits in place, workers began removing windows and exterior facades from the building in a process the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center called a “prelude” to structural deconstruction. On Dec. 11, however, workers from the John Galt Co., hired by primary contractor Bovis Lend Lease to assist in the deconstruction, walked off the site.

Though the Construction Center would not comment on the reasons for the walk-out, the New York Daily News reported Wednesday that Galt is asking for $30 million in additional funding to complete the job. Bob Harvey of the L.M.C.C.C. did say that the parties were currently negotiating and that Bovis, as lead contractor, was ultimately responsible for bringing its subcontractors back to the site. He added that he hoped that the dispute would be resolved as quickly as possible.

“If it’s resolved quickly, [the reduction in work force] shouldn’t have a material impact on the construction schedule,” Harvey said.

Based on the current schedule, the window and fašade removal would continue until early January, when the floor-by-floor deconstruction of the building would begin. The deconstruction is slated for completion in December 2007. The cost estimate for the purchase of the building and demolition is $207 million.

Several World Trade Center projects — including a public park, a new Greek Orthodox church, the Port Authority’s vehicle screening and parking facility, and Tower 5 — cannot be completed until the shrouded 41-story tower comes down.

— Skye H. McFarlane
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Old December 16th, 2006, 06:09 AM   #57
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In your dreams. It's not going to slow construction of this building.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 07:42 AM   #58
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is it just me or does it take longer for a building to get approved and set its foundation in new york rather than building it?
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Old December 16th, 2006, 08:11 AM   #59
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It does tend to take long in general, although this is a special case, being that there are security issues, debate over whether anything should be built on the site, what should be built, etc etc. And it being owned by the Port Authority also made the situation even more entangled.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 08:36 AM   #60
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can't wait until pic's of the 1st Beam
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