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Old September 14th, 2008, 07:12 PM   #5981
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W Ground Zero prace nabrały tępa przy budowie Memorialu a dokładniej rozpoczyna się zabudowa tzw. Wanny i budowa basenów tam gdzie stały podstawy Twin Towers:

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Have swindled zero in (to) at structure dull work Ground Memorialu but building is started exactly so called bathtub and there structure of basin where bases become Twin Towers
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Old September 14th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #5982
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Old September 14th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #5983
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:20 AM   #5984
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Will the floorplates of the new Freedom Tower be smaller that the old 1 WTC?
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:38 AM   #5985
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probably the higher you go. The top floor doesn't look like it's as big as an acre like the floors of the WTC towers.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:45 AM   #5986
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the footprint is going to be the same than the old towers, 200x200 feet i think, then it get smaller
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Old September 15th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #5987
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Correct. It is the same size at the base then tapers.

It seems on the webcam that there has been some serious rebar work going on in the southern core.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #5988
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Correct. It is the same size at the base then tapers.

It seems on the webcam that there has been some serious rebar work going on in the southern core.
I don't know whats up with the North core, the south core has gone up well but the north core has just stayed there since february. Does anyone know whats up with that?
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Old September 15th, 2008, 06:20 PM   #5989
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two of those new freedom towers would be awesome instead of the wtc2. Instead make the wtc2 the wtc3 after the two identical freedom towers.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #5990
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I don't know whats up with the North core, the south core has gone up well but the north core has just stayed there since february. Does anyone know whats up with that?
The northern core's footprint goes over the PATH tracks, thereby complicating it's rise because it has to be reinforced in order for the core to put its full weight dispersment over the PATH tracks.

In other words it is taking longer because they have to use a lot of rebar and steel, sort of like a setback (think of the Chicago Trump Tower for reference). Also hours of construction over the PATH tunnel are limited to weekends as it has to continue running.

Speaking of which it seems as formwork of the northern core has been put upright and maybe a sign that there will be a pour, considering they are due for one soon.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #5991
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Memorial Plaza trees. Slides were shown of the trees currently growing in New Jersey. Godspeed, little trees, and we'll see you here soon.
Hopefully they'll learn their lesson from the trees at the Pentagon memorial. I was there for its dedication on the 11th and the trees were very disappointing, only about 10 feet tall and looked very unhealthy. I overheard many other visitors expressing the same kind of disappointment. Otherwise, the memorial was/is great. A sign at the Pentagon said that the trees were just adjusting to their transplantation and that they should be healthy and taller by next spring. Hopefully the memorial will be around for hundreds of years, so actually I guess we shouldn't expect the trees to look beautiful just a few weeks after they were planted. (I'd post some pics, but they'd probably get deleted anyway for being off-topic.)
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Old September 15th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #5992
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Hopefully they'll learn their lesson from the trees at the Pentagon memorial. I was there for its dedication on the 11th and the trees were very disappointing, only about 10 feet tall and looked very unhealthy. I overheard many other visitors expressing the same kind of disappointment. Otherwise, the memorial was/is great. A sign at the Pentagon said that the trees were just adjusting to their transplantation and that they should be healthy and taller by next spring. Hopefully the memorial will be around for hundreds of years, so actually I guess we shouldn't expect the trees to look beautiful just a few weeks after they were planted. (I'd post some pics, but they'd probably get deleted anyway for being off-topic.)
i think they are amazing, i love the trees, and the air is made way fresher, which kind of makes the experience a little better, and after a while the trees will grow out and create a cloak on hot days, and make it more peaceful, i love the idea
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Old September 17th, 2008, 01:31 AM   #5993
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there is an article about the new WTC in the october issue of Esquire. Even they point out how slow it is... and there are two smaller articles on the burj dubai and chicago spire.
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Old September 17th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #5994
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Esquire?

Thats even less reason to listen to their viewpoint regarding the construction speed of this. If they are pointing out how long its taken to get to this final phase including the other designs they didnt go with, and the beaucracy that had to be gone through for years now then its already widely known and they are just regurgitating this as their view-point.

Things are actually speeding up as far as the speed of the construction, and overall this isnt moving all that slowly considering the incredible amount of infra-structure being constructed just under the tower footprints. Probably one of the more complicated office tower construction projects anywhere on the planet currently when you take everything into consideration. Also, they are not ******* around when they build up the cores of these towers!!!

These core walls (I read a while back) are going to be from 3 ft thick (up to 6ft in some areas of the FT core) - They are including the latest and greatest technology as far as most of the safety features are concerned - pressurized stair ways, fireman's lifts, etc...
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Old September 17th, 2008, 01:58 AM   #5995
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why there are no pictures??? so much text and as I don't speak english very well (as you can note it) i don't really understand well what it's happening.
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Old September 17th, 2008, 02:21 AM   #5996
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why there are no pictures??? so much text and as I don't speak english very well (as you can note it) i don't really understand well what it's happening.
http://www.joewoolhead.blogspot.com/

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Old September 17th, 2008, 03:39 AM   #5997
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Great pics in the blog > http://www.joewoolhead.blogspot.com/

Thanks for posting that link!
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Old September 17th, 2008, 05:15 AM   #5998
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i think they are amazing, i love the trees, and the air is made way fresher, which kind of makes the experience a little better, and after a while the trees will grow out and create a cloak on hot days, and make it more peaceful, i love the idea
the trees dont keep their leaves in the winter so its gonna b baron
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Old September 17th, 2008, 06:37 AM   #5999
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tree still look pretty good in the winter. Anyway I haven't had much to say in days, the work speak for it's self. Things look to becoming along nicely.
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:09 AM   #6000
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Oh, it fits so nice

I think the WTC fits in perfectly in the NYC skyline. I love the design, it actually looks like a building as opposed to a giant pole whereas I have seen in some others. Some of them super super talls are just that, tall and they dont fit in to the skyline. I cant wait for chicago to get that ugly spire, it will ruin there skyline. Anyone (listen up Dubai) can put a very tall pole in the middle of their skyline but does it really make the skyline better. Some take away from their skyline, because it makes all of the other buildings look tiny. Good job NYC, we dont have to have the biggest building, because we have the nicest skyline...
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