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Old October 23rd, 2008, 09:45 PM   #6361
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MoMo, the financial crisis is having no impact on the WTC towers and Freedom Tower; 95% of the contracts have been given out.
I find this amazing and hard to believe. these buildings are not only huge and veryyyy expensive, they are also being built in the center of where the crisis is. (NYC financial district).

I'm very happy to hear there is no impact. but I have my doubts moving forward.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 09:58 PM   #6362
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I think it did have an impact on the hub and other aspects of the WTC, but no changes have been made to the towers. Both the PA chairman and someone from Silverstein's team said that they can complete it.

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Old October 23rd, 2008, 11:21 PM   #6363
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Of course the crisis has no impact on the building progress, but it could have caused a problem with finding tenants for all the office space. And it might be even positive for the construction costs since other projects might not go ahead. For example building material prices could go down because of that.

But since the North core is still lagging behind I don't think we will see more steal beams on the outside and construction of the actual floors in the very near future.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 11:25 PM   #6364
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Worldwide steel prices have collapsed by 50% at least, and stock in both manufacturers and traders is piling up.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 03:31 AM   #6365
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Worldwide steel prices have collapsed by 50% at least, and stock in both manufacturers and traders is piling up.
Time to sell my ArcelorMittal shares.

Seems to me that this financial crisis will be over by mid to late next year. Stock prices will have reached their previous levels and everything will be fine. You have to realize that governments around the world have pumped around 2.5 trillion dollars into the banks.

They should buy their steel while the prices are still low!!!
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Old October 24th, 2008, 01:09 PM   #6366
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Constructions of skyscrapers are normally (or even should be) determined by economics, but this tower is not just economics. They will build it for the sake of national pride.

And in long run, it is not a bad investment anyway. Empire State Building was completed in the middle of Great Depression but now generates lots of profit.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 01:35 PM   #6367
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Time to sell my ArcelorMittal shares. !
They already fell to 20 from 50
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Old October 24th, 2008, 10:19 PM   #6368
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Can anybody spot visible concrete on the north side of the construction site? Either that the concrete was poured below the currently visible floor. No biggy.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #6369
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Old October 25th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #6370
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thanks for the update, are the pics recent? I thought they are farther.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #6371
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Old October 25th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #6372
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Not bad! Nice process! I am wondering when will they install two more luffing cranes? I recall long time ago someone on here mentioned that Freedom Tower will require four luffing cranes to get it built.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 04:19 AM   #6373
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All 4 Favco cranes at the WTC1 site well be jumped just as shown in Scumonkey's tutorial, 30 times. When you see the jumping frames being put on the crane towers you well know they are getting ready to jump. Loma has made arangements for 6000 feet of crane tower to be avalible as needed for the 4 cranes. As for taking them down, I have personal experance with that. Because there well be 4 cranes, the last one to the top will pull up the tower segments of the other cranes and lower them to the ground after taking down the cranes themselves.

I had a talk with the engineer for Tishman about the cranes becouse of the location of the south crane requires a call back after it is removed in order to install the railings for stair C. He told me the towers for all 4 cranes well run all the way to the roof. In other words, these are not climbing cranes where the base of the crane tower climbs up inside the core using hydrolic rams.
He said that the new cranes will be added on the sides of the building when everything reaches grade. I think that I read something that said the cranes could jack themselves up without the need of extra tower sections, but maybe I was thinking of something else or he could be wrong.

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Old October 25th, 2008, 11:16 AM   #6374
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Old October 25th, 2008, 12:04 PM   #6375
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nice pics kudos to all workers there
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Old October 25th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #6376
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Something happening indeed... in the core (in pic) i see 5 floors?
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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:37 PM   #6377
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Nice. I hope things pick up now.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #6378
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IMO for a faster progres they should have used DOKA, BRM or GROCON formwork (if the core does not change configuration often).
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:12 AM   #6379
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Nice. I hope things pick up now.
Not until they can get the northen core going up; they can only work on it for a few hours very early each morning because of the PATH tracks, but once they reach a certain point, things will be going better than ever.

Edit: A little off topic, but the memorial has reached grade.

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Old October 26th, 2008, 01:35 PM   #6380
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I think talking about the memorial is not a bit off-topic that's what ground zero is all about.
In the last two months the memorial is really taking shape!
By the way the webcams are not working?!
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