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Old November 6th, 2008, 03:40 AM   #6461
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Why does this huge steel column appear to be resting on WOOD? Or is the wood just covering concrete or another section of steel?

That is a lot of rebar!
That is one of the original white painted ceremonial columns that is resting on.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #6462
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Oh my. why doesnt toronto have buildings like those. darn i hate toronto
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Old November 6th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #6463
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Oh my. why doesnt toronto have buildings like those. darn i hate toronto
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Old November 6th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #6464
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I think pieces of foam like styrofoam for the blue one and maybe polystirene for the white. Maybe foam is for thermal regulation when concrete is pouring , liquid concrete is hot.
Liquid concrete is not hot per se, however concrete curing is an exothermic reaction and it may create a lot of heat.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #6465
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That is one of the original white painted ceremonial columns that is resting on.
Ah, the white paint has faded yellow or has been stained by rust from the column above it. It sure had me fooled.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #6466
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Liquid concrete is not hot per se, however concrete curing is an exothermic reaction and it may create a lot of heat.
... and the white polystyrene insulation keeps the heat of the reaction inside so that the concrete cures faster
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Old November 6th, 2008, 11:50 PM   #6467
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Those polystyrene aren't the same as those used for protecting picture hangers are they?

Or else they would melt.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 12:46 AM   #6468
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I'm not sure if they will demolish it. In the top of the picture it looks like some new beams are attached to the structure. On the other hand I see some of FT's perimeter columns underneath the deck (upper left corner, behind the crane)

As for the basement floorplan. This is what I found on my PC.


I thought there are some more detailed plans but I can't find them. Maybe someone else have them? Anyway there will be 4 basement levels. They are currently working on the last level (B1) before streetlevel.
is the amount of retail space much lesser than the original wtc?
i remember the original wtc as having a significant number of stores etc
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Old November 7th, 2008, 01:30 AM   #6469
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Workers cuting styrofoam



and carpenters in action

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Old November 7th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #6470
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is the amount of retail space much lesser than the original wtc?
i remember the original wtc as having a significant number of stores etc
It will have the same amount of space, it is just that some of the retail has moved to the street level on some of the buildings.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 02:07 AM   #6471
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It will have the same amount of space, it is just that some of the retail has moved to the street level on some of the buildings.
Before Sept. 11, about 430,000 square feet of retail space existed at the World Trade Center, most of it along the concourse that stretched among the seven buildings in the complex beneath the outdoor plaza. In its contract, Westfield had the right to expand its retail space to 650,000 square feet.

But when officials of the LMDC gave instructions to the teams of architects working on plans for the site, they told the designers that they could include up to one million square feet of retail space.

As of now, I think they are planning over 500,000 square feet of retail space throughout the site, which is more than before, and I'm pretty sure that Westfield is still in charge. Larry Silverstein had a lot of hope for the retail space in the old WTC so it's no shock he wants even more of it rebuilt.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 04:32 AM   #6472
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Do you think retailers that used to have stores there before 9/11 will return? Or new WTC complex will have all new retailers that WTC never had before?
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Old November 7th, 2008, 05:22 AM   #6473
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A lot of the retailers that were there before were large chains so I'd imagine they'd return.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 06:58 AM   #6474
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The subway has one temporary short platform on the west side that i saw today, and a large hole that you can see out of into the site.

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Old November 7th, 2008, 10:53 AM   #6475
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Escalators will one day be installed on the floor that they are currently building and they will bring people up to the lobby or bring people from the lobby down to the first below grade floor, where I think there may be retail space and access to the transportation system.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 11:40 AM   #6476
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The subway has one temporary short platform on the west side that i saw today, and a large hole that you can see out of into the site.

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I wonder if this hole you saw is the new maintenance access way they've been building?
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Old November 7th, 2008, 01:47 PM   #6477
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Construction is going a reasonable pace right now. I´m glad to see it rising fast above street level.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM   #6478
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They're doing a big pour on the B2 level today. They have forms set out around an awfully big chunk of it.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 06:07 PM   #6479
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Workers cuting styrofoam

I believe that that foam is insulation that is being put there to protect the concrete from freezing as it sets (it is getting to be that time of the year again here in the USofA, after all). Concrete setting IS an exothermic reaction, but not sufficiently so that it doesn't need protection from extreme cold.

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Old November 7th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #6480
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They are doing a BIG pour today! Check it out

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