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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:01 AM   #6621
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If you apply the same logic, then the whole of europe shouldn't have been rebuilt after WW2, including my home town of London

To get some perspective, 20,000 people died in the blitz on London, 50% of the city was badly damaged or completely destroyed and 1.5 million people were made homeless.

We rebuilt.

http://www.tubephotos.com/?goto=canary-wharf&thumbs=ok
...as we are. This site will be just as densely developed as before, while paying the proper respect to what happened there. I'm sure there are plenty of memorials to the war in London, too.

But back to topic, as others have said. I will continue to enjoy watching these buildings rise over the next few years.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 10:44 AM   #6622
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There is a difference between a World War and being attacked out of the blue.
I actually spat out my drink...

This is offensive to every invasion, attack and assault in history. As a nation, we should be mature enough to accept that land is just land. We rebuild, we commemorate our losses, but we move forward.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 12:45 PM   #6623
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so the people in London didn't suffer any less??
Of course they suffer... World war ii was bad not only for London
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 01:56 PM   #6624
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back to topic again!!!!!!!!!!!!!............


I don't think this was posted so here is some nice update report from last month http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pd...ate_100808.pdf

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Old November 22nd, 2008, 02:29 PM   #6625
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Freedom tower rendering:

IMO this will become the best skyline that lower Manhattan and NYC ever had, even surpassing the pre-9/11 WTC skyline .
Too bad the skyline won't look like the rendering! FT will not tower above the rest of the buildings like this rendering shows. This illustration is very stylized to make FT look more dominant and impressive than it really will be.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 02:48 PM   #6626
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Too bad the skyline won't look like the rendering! FT will not tower above the rest of the buildings like this rendering shows. This illustration is very stylized to make FT look more dominant and impressive than it really will be.
You looking at old renderings, look on first page.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 12:49 AM   #6627
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I don't think this was posted so here is some nice update report from last month http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pd...ate_100808.pdf
Great update. Thanks for posting. It's nice to see closeups of the work and it explained a lot of questions had.

Are they waiting for 130 Liberty St. to be taken down before beginning work on the South Bathtub?
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 02:21 AM   #6628
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There is a difference between a World War and being attacked out of the blue.
Dude, no. Just no. What the **** does this even matter? Destruction is destruction. Hitler was evil, Osama bin Laden was evil. They both killed innocent people and destroyed property. There is no fundamental difference in terms of the effect of both attacks; only the scale differs.

And it wasn't out of the blue. Terrorism against the US had been accelerating for 3 decades leading up to the 9/11 attacks. We knew who Osama was and where he was and the FBI and CIA knew he was planning some kind of major attack on the US, on our own soil.

The rebuilding of the WTC is completely, utterly 100% necessary. 18,000 businesses were destroyed or displaced as a result of the 9/11 attacks. These people lose money every day they are out of business. Many I'm sure have relocated, hurting the Manhattan economy. Not to mention the fact that you simply cannot waste a massive, multi-acre plot of land right in the middle of the world's second largest financial center. You HAVE to rebuild it.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 04:29 AM   #6629
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This is going to look great when it is done.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 04:42 AM   #6630
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I love new york, im so glad the towers are being rebuilt. It shows worlwide progress. Iraq is stable, FT is getting built. Truley a great time to be an american.


Now if only new yorks people could quit being such duchebags......

i know. pipe dream
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 06:00 AM   #6631
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^Iraq is only stable because the government is playing off Sunnis to not cause shit. Just an illusion that is definitely not sustainable.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:32 AM   #6632
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Who would have thought that a secondary downside to the slow progress would be the amount of absolute crap that gets posted in this thread.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:56 AM   #6633
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I love new york, im so glad the towers are being rebuilt. It shows worlwide progress. Iraq is stable, FT is getting built. Truley a great time to be an american.


Now if only new yorks people could quit being such duchebags......

i know. pipe dream
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 10:03 AM   #6634
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Of course they suffer... World war ii was bad not only for London
Hence the point I was making...
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 11:21 AM   #6635
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The rebuilding of the WTC is completely, utterly 100% necessary. 18,000 businesses were destroyed or displaced as a result of the 9/11 attacks. These people lose money every day they are out of business. Many I'm sure have relocated, hurting the Manhattan economy. Not to mention the fact that you simply cannot waste a massive, multi-acre plot of land right in the middle of the world's second largest financial center. You HAVE to rebuild it.
Is not only your economy btw, all world suffers from 9/11 attacks.....

Now on topic: why constructions on WTC towers are too slowly?
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 12:10 PM   #6636
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This video may explain a few things
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9SN0PPiYQY4
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:32 PM   #6637
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useful video, cheers. I like the metaphoric phrase 'pilgrimage for New Yorkers' for the ground zero.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 07:29 PM   #6638
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Useful video indeed
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Old November 24th, 2008, 01:13 AM   #6639
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The media is determined to label this project as the biggest failure ever when it's just the opposite. If they really wanted to educate people, they would have stated what happened to the design and why it happened, among other things, from 2002 to now (from the first crap LMDC designs which didn't have a tower over 700' tall to the current and final design), not just repeat obvious, incorrect and ambiguous information, like how the hub has to be built 'first.'

It's as if this plan has been around for over 7 years when in reality the WTC masterplan has only been around for roughly 3 years with the final construction documents completed this year.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #6640
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True, the plans were revised any times and this added to the overall delay time. It's an embarrassment though to see that in Asia and Middle East projects like these are erected within a few years and in this case which is not just yet another project in a former fishing village in Asia, but the revival and reconstruction of one of the most known urban neighbourhoods of the planet, to see this happening.

They need to speed things up to make it happen guys. For all of us who've been to the original WTC it's an embarrassment.
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