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Old April 18th, 2007, 12:16 AM   #701
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So, this might well be wrong:

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I thought there would have installed up to four cranes in the core of the building, like the Kangaroo Cranes of the old Twins. Btw, this first crane raised at FT seems to be bigger than the Kangaroos.

Kangaroo Cranes at Twins:

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Old April 18th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #702
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Someone at WNY posted a construction diagram that showed there would only be 2 cranes in the core. I doubt they have it wrong. Don't worry, this building will still be using at least 4 tower cranes like the one erected.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 12:44 AM   #703
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agree with you, probably we'll see 4 cranes.

btw...does anyone know ho wide the building will be?
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^Same as the Twin Towers, over 200 feet wide.
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wow, that thing will be gigantic big. i always loved the gigantic dimensions of the twins

Exactly 208 feet wide
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Old April 18th, 2007, 01:08 AM   #704
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damn i know they will be the same size but the construction of the WTC looks bigger like the core and the outer area but i already know all of you are going to say they are the same size but look at were the FT is being built and look and the orginal WTC
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Old April 18th, 2007, 01:41 AM   #705
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What is your point? The SWFC has a freaking hotel in it and officially the FT has 1 more floor. In fact, the number of floors doesn't matter since the massing ends up at 1400' and the official height is still 1776'. Why you would even mention that building is beyond me.
First off, you need to chill. The SWFC does have more floors hence it will have a bigger height than the FT regaurdless of what's inside of it. I do not count sturctual height such as spires, antennae, lattice work, and crowns as height. For me, it is the either the roof or the heighest occupied floor in being the official height. Also, I always found it weird that it would be said to be 1776 ft with the spire, but w/o it looses about 300 ft, which is cheating IMO. The same thing that the CTBUH states is what got the Petronas Towers to be taller than the Sears Tower when built when it only surpassed it by its spires and neither roof was bigger.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 01:58 AM   #706
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Barclay-Vesey Building (1926) will be completely hidden between 7WTC and FT. Even more than it was with the previous WTC, because the new 7WTC is taller than the older one and FT is only Vesey´s width far from it.
It´s a shame, because Barclay-Vesey Building, the first Art Decó high-rise in History, is an amazing building.
Btw, the new WTC project looks really nice.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 02:15 AM   #707
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Barclay-Vesey Building (1926) will be completely hidden between 7WTC and FT. Even more than it was with the previous WTC, because the new 7WTC is taller than the older one and FT is only Vesey´s width far from it.
It´s a shame, because Barclay-Vesey Building, the first Art Decó high-rise in History, is an amazing building.
Btw, the new WTC project looks really nice.
at least its not being torn down to build another big steel monstrocity.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 02:41 AM   #708
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The first cranes at WTC were made in Australia by FAVCO... almost a prototype....

The one up now is the same as the one at Goldman Sachs... It could have been the one that went up at the Times HQ...

It looks like a 440D, but I could be wrong... but if anyone goes down there, It should have it painted near the operators cab, or the slew ring.. thats the bit that turns... It'll also have lift weight, and a serial number... the newset cranes in OZ are numbered around the 1300 mark.

It would either have been made in Harlingtoin Texas, Or Malaysia, or even Sydney..

But it's winch time to the top will be about 2, 2 and a half minutes when the tower tops out... with the size of the boom, it would a pretty tight fit getting four cranes all together like WTC.... but they have succeeded with that on the Burj, although I'd say one of those will be going soon.

FAVCO was bought out by some Malaysians.. It's now FAVCO-FAVELLE..

It's a great Aussie invention, but the aspect of the self climbing outside a tower is rare these days, apart from Comcast, BofA and a couple of jobs in OZ.

It's easier to hoist up through a tower these days, and saves on lots of costly Tower sections.

But there climbing all the big ones.... BURJ, Shanghai, and Hong Kong..
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Old April 18th, 2007, 06:21 AM   #709
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Old April 18th, 2007, 09:57 AM   #710
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WOW! I'm excited already! Can't wait to see beautiful skyscrapers to go up one day!
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Old April 18th, 2007, 09:08 PM   #711
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impressive pics, can't wait to see our baby's rise
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Old April 18th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #712
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What is the function of the crane?

What exactly is it doing? Is it building the portion of its core, getting the other portion ready or what?
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I find it rather awkward that they are only errecting a kangaroo crane now when the core has yet to even reach ground level yet alone be started.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 11:52 PM   #714
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If you look closely under the crane, it looks as though concrete is slowly rising underneath it. I hope it just not my imagination
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Old April 19th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #715
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abc, that's the best explanation of cranes I've seen. Thank you for educating the rest of us.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 12:17 AM   #716
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So exactly how much longer will it be till the concrete core starts to rise?
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Old April 19th, 2007, 12:34 AM   #717
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You can clearly see that work is ongoing for the PATH terminal, as well as work being done to strengthen the slurry wall that'll protect Towers 3 and 4 (bottom of photo).
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So exactly how much longer will it be till the concrete core starts to rise?
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Old April 19th, 2007, 02:17 AM   #719
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I have been looking at that picture above me and I am not sure where the orginal twin towers were once located at since it is seen like subway lines are taking almost most of space of Ground Zero. Can anyone please draw the orginal twin towers on that picture just clear it up? Thanks!
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I have been looking at that picture above me and I am not sure where the orginal twin towers were once located at since it is seen like subway lines are taking almost most of space of Ground Zero. Can anyone please draw the orginal twin towers on that picture just clear it up? Thanks!
See that ramp that comes down from the left of the picture. Right infront of it and on it was the north tower. The outline is the off white woodwork there. To the left and towards the bottom of the picture is the second box or where the south tower was. All you see is one side of the plank which is parallel to the ramp going into the pit that I mentioned before.
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