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Old January 21st, 2009, 09:03 PM   #7261
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I'm gonna be in NYC during spring break, is it worth going to see the site, or is it inactive?
I was in Manhattan yesterday on other business and took the E train down to the WTC stop to walk the perimeter of Ground Zero. While there are only a few places where you can get good views, it's definitely worth it for the feeling of being there. And the site is definitely active; I was there around dinner time and a nearby pizza place was packed with construction workers.

Speaking of, here's the first six photos I took while I was there. I'll post the remaining five later:





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Old January 21st, 2009, 09:14 PM   #7262
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nice this is the start of the super tall i cant wait over the year to see this structer rise up from the ground but 1 poblem i have does it have enough fannacis and ensure the construction will carry on not like that mosco one where the company went bust building that giant 600m tall tower
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Old January 21st, 2009, 10:34 PM   #7263
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Hurricanes in New York?
yeah Citigroup Center was lucky, when it was built it was structurally unsound and would have fallen in 70mph+ winds, work had to be carried out to fix the problem and before the work was completed New York was scheduled for a direct hit from Hurricane Ella with the city on evacuation notice, luckily the hurricane missed new york by a whisker that time

btw there is a fault line running through the middle of manhattan somewhere, i think its in harlem if memory serves me correct
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 02:48 AM   #7264
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Great shots adam-albany, I really like how ya got #7 in the background on several of them.

OK, just to straighting out a few things, the steel that went up this weekend was always in the plan and is not for earthquake strengthing. It serves 2 purposes, (1) to give the floor beams something to bolt too (2) acts as a header above openings in the core walls. Yes, it well all be encased within the core.
How do I know, I have a full set of drawings for Tower One and the Memorial.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/sh...Tower&page=370

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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:40 AM   #7265
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Great shots adam-albany, I really like how ya got #7 in the background on several of them.
Thanks. One thing that struck me about 7WTC is how exactly it looks like the artistic renders in the real world. Usually the stylized lighting of the renders makes buildings look much nicer than the final product in reality. Not so with 7WTC.

Here's the other five photos I promised, which focus on the rest of the site:





I was happy to get a shot of the South Footprint through a hole in the fence on Liberty Street, because you don't see many from that angle. A funny example of human psychology: When I was there, lots of people paused to look as they went by but nobody was taking pictures. I slipped under one of the barrier beams to snap a few quick pictures, and by the time I was done there were like 30 people taking photos too. Courage in numbers.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 09:55 AM   #7266
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A tad OT, but the first tower crane at WTC Tower 4 will be installed next month.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 11:12 AM   #7267
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thank you for pics adam
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM   #7268
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nice update, adam, the pics are very good
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:07 PM   #7269
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Still some way to go.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:30 PM   #7270
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I like the colourful reflection of the sky in WTC7.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 02:48 PM   #7271
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wtc7 is stunning, the whole WTC site is turning blue for good.

Looks like the North Eastern corner is ready for the pour...
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 07:47 PM   #7272
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Very nice updates
I see a new crane...

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Yeah there was a few in the 1930's wipeout a whole island thats no longer around. It's normal for us to get a little bit of a tropical storm. And you have to remember NYC is a coastal city. Hurricans can hit like any other city on the coast.
Yeah... but N.Y. is north. It is not tropical like Miami or New Orleans for examble...
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:56 AM   #7273
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Hurricane Hanna hit NYC as a tropical storm and that was september 2008. I remeber some crazy storm hitting the city as a kid. Don't think a hurrican can't hit New York City because it's happed before.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 05:30 PM   #7274
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New York City has had some near hits by Hurricanes in the last 108 years.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english...ry.shtml#great

1938,1944, 2 in 1954,1960, Agnes in 1972 caused wide spread flooding as did Floyd in 1999.

The links below are earthquake history for New York and New Jersey.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/...rk/history.php

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 06:13 PM   #7275
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Somethinh that i didnt knew or even imagine! Hurricanes in NYC incredible!

About the towers (Freedom tower and the other WTC towers) i dont think that those towers will have a problem in a Hurricane category 3 or even 4 (?)
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 07:58 PM   #7276
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Somethinh that i didnt knew or even imagine! Hurricanes in NYC incredible!

About the towers (Freedom tower and the other WTC towers) i dont think that those towers will have a problem in a Hurricane category 3 or even 4 (?)
From several articles that I have seen on the subject, the strongest hurricane that can physically hit the NYC/New England area is in the range of catagory 3. A cat 3 direct hit, with the right-side eyewall passing over Manhattan (and assuming that the storm itself is moving northward at 15-20 km/h), will cause catastrophic damage with the potential for significant loss of life.

Hurricanes are a normal part of life EVERYWHERE on the Gulf of Mexico/Atlantic Ocean coast of North America.

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:11 PM   #7277
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WoW, this must be the most complicated construction side around the world. And people don't stop to complain how slow everything is going. I think we saw pretty fast progress in 2008.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:11 PM   #7278
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NYC isn't LA so earthquakes really aren't a problem. Now Hurricanes on the hand I'd be worried about them if I was building them.
Well, you will never know. New York City will have an earthquake someday. Zensteeltdude posted the earthquakes fact in New York.

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New York City has had some near hits by Hurricanes in the last 108 years.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english...ry.shtml#great

1938,1944, 2 in 1954,1960, Agnes in 1972 caused wide spread flooding as did Floyd in 1999.

The links below are earthquake history for New York and New Jersey.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/...rk/history.php

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/...ey/history.php
Thanks for the sources!
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:04 AM   #7279
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of course the storms hit NYC, the category 5 hurricanes from the south move up toward NYC and by that time its like tropical depression or even weaker.

but this is completely off topic.

Look at the web cam, there's further progress in the steel structure over northern core.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 02:20 AM   #7280
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In my opinion discussing hurricanes and earthquakes is very on topic when discussing a cantilever structure such as Tower One. Gravity is the weakest force acting on such a tower where as, for example a 130mph wind would put the foundations on the windward side under tension and more than double the compression on the leeward side.
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