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Old January 30th, 2009, 01:00 AM   #7361
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i hope this building will complete in this century.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 02:38 AM   #7362
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I wish I had a dime for every nonsensical post about this taking so long, I'd be rich. DIDJA not see the towers fall? Dooya not realize the red tape in building on a terrorist attack site? Guess not. As Bugs would say....what a Maroon!
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Old January 30th, 2009, 05:37 AM   #7363
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actually... the problems started with a debacle of a design competition for the site, only before silverstein chose to bastardize the illegitimate libeskind plan by hiring childs to reform it. the two came up with a crack baby of an altered master plan, which eventually got scrapped all together because the police department said the proximity of the twisted hunk of crap's base to the sidewalk was unsafe. eventually they came up with the freedom tower as we know it (which we also saw revised twice) and then the finalized plans for towers 2-5 many months later. - and now here we sit... mind you the libeskind plan was chosen long before anyone even knew what the hell the burj dubai was.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 06:04 AM   #7364
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oh i can't believe i forgot to mention: all that stuff happened even after they presented (i think) 6 generic preliminary designs, which were near unanimously hated by the public.





i really think an opportunity for an amazing structure was passed up. not that i don't like what's being built now; i just think foster's tower(s?) would have been on a whole different level of awesomeness.

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Old January 30th, 2009, 07:47 AM   #7365
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I hate the old pictures of the runner ups for the freedom tower. They're super ugly and tasteless. If your going to build twin towers, While I shouldn't have to say more. I luv the correct design as it is.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #7366
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I would have liked to see the original twin towers back up; taller, stronger, and better.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 07:53 AM   #7367
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you do know the runner ups were all actually favored over the existing plan right? there was supposed to be a public voting process, but pataki and silverstein quietly chose a plan for controversial reasons behind closed doors. in choosing libeskind, they almost went as far against the actual voting numbers as they possibly could have in that contest. - again, i like the freedom tower, but some of you guys should just know the real reason this whole thing came to be.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 07:58 AM   #7368
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I would have liked to see the original twin towers back up; taller, stronger, and better.
I luv the old towers and I'll remember them forever. But I believe rebuilding them would only bring back pain of what we lost. If we're going to grow
and became stronger we need to get past this. But in doing so we most not forget those that were lost.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #7369
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I wish I had a dime for every nonsensical post about this taking so long, I'd be rich. DIDJA not see the towers fall? Dooya not realize the red tape in building on a terrorist attack site? Guess not. As Bugs would say....what a Maroon!
The fact it was the terrorist attack site had very little to do with the delays. The biggest part of the delays were due to politics! Seems like every politician and agency wanted to stick their nose in and have the territorial fight of some kind or another. If they had let businessmen control the project it would already be done.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 05:03 PM   #7370
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i hope this building will complete in this century.
Its late because of current economical crisis, and may also they would buiding foundation enough to tackle situations like 9/11.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #7371
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Old January 30th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #7372
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i really think an opportunity for an amazing structure was passed up. not that i don't like what's being built now; i just think foster's tower(s?) would have been on a whole different level of awesomeness.
I dont like too much this design... If was able to built twin towers, another rendering would be nice...

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Old January 30th, 2009, 09:30 PM   #7373
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Wow!! those pics are stunning you can even see the memorial!! this is awesome
I don't like this old render ,too... I cant't imagine how this tower would be built... on one part it looks so thin... well, it's the problem of the architechts... not mine
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Old January 30th, 2009, 10:46 PM   #7374
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what are the bars sticking out of the south core doing?
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Old January 31st, 2009, 12:00 AM   #7375
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what is that building with all the yellow on it?
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Old January 31st, 2009, 12:00 AM   #7376
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haha the south core looks tiny..
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Old January 31st, 2009, 04:00 AM   #7377
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I just watched the final segment on MSNBC on the WTC. The host David Shuster is a complete idiot. He kept on saying that everyone wanted the original towers and the new plans were disgracing the families of 911. He sounded like a complete jackass. Meanwhile he had a guest from the Port Authority who did an excellent job of defending from the wack jobs obviously whom Shuster supports who want to rip all the work already done to rebuild the twins. The guy was so obnoxious about it just made me mad. Anyone else see the interview. i would like to know other people's thoughts
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Old January 31st, 2009, 06:35 AM   #7378
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what is that building with all the yellow on it?
I was wondering the same thing

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I just watched the final segment on MSNBC on the WTC. The host David Shuster is a complete idiot. He kept on saying that everyone wanted the original towers and the new plans were disgracing the families of 911. He sounded like a complete jackass. Meanwhile he had a guest from the Port Authority who did an excellent job of defending from the wack jobs obviously whom Shuster supports who want to rip all the work already done to rebuild the twins. The guy was so obnoxious about it just made me mad. Anyone else see the interview. i would like to know other people's thoughts
That guy should be smack along with, anybody else who thinks, they have a right to second guest, whats going on at the WTC site. I read here only the people on these thread like FT. And thats not true at all, must New Yorker don't care either way. Must of us just want to see the skyline restored and the people who died honored. All I ask for was more then one supertall, since I got that I have nothing bad to say about the design.
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Old January 31st, 2009, 07:08 AM   #7379
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William Beaver House, 44 floors, 523 feet
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Old January 31st, 2009, 07:19 AM   #7380
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