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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:27 PM   #8021
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I'm glad they changed the name. Very glad. Now can someone tell me where I can buy some of those delicious American Fries?
dont you mean Freedom Fries?
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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:30 PM   #8022
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They are pouring today. Hard to tell where but it seems to be over the PATH decking.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:43 PM   #8023
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Excellent news. Today, March 27th, they are pouring the B2 floor slab over the PATH tunnels! This is completely unexpected. I know they've been laying rebar over the past week or so, but I'd long excepted them to pour the slab over the summer when the PATH service would be shut down. It isn't even April yet. But just look at the earthcam webcam for yourself, the concrete is being poured now!

One of the main obstacles holding up the construction should now be in the past.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 07:41 PM   #8024
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Im thinking most people still refer to it as the freedom tower, its synonymous with it now like Ebola said.


It should only have been a nickname and nothing more. 1 World Trade Center sounds a lot better.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 08:29 PM   #8025
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WTF???

1 world trade centre? that is so weird. Freedom tower had perfect purpose for its name and 1WTC had purpose not to be the name of freedom tower... I'm so confused.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #8026
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WTF???

1 world trade centre? that is so weird. Freedom tower had perfect purpose for its name and 1WTC had purpose not to be the name of freedom tower... I'm so confused.
I dont know man, 1WTC gets right down to the point. Freedom tower is what second grade teachers will call it, not skyscraper aficionados (I hope)
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #8027
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it will sound weird at first since we called it the freedom tower for the last 6 years, but it makes sense to call it one world trade center it pays homage to the past history. the name freedom tower sounds like the government bought the naming rights to the tower to cover up the mess it made in handling the aftermath.
as my economic teacher told me keep it simple and straight forward.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:14 PM   #8028
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The Freedom Tower moniker was sooooo nauseatingly pretentious. Ugh. I'm glad the decision was finally made to do away with it.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:44 PM   #8029
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WTF???

1 world trade centre? that is so weird. Freedom tower had perfect purpose for its name and 1WTC had purpose not to be the name of freedom tower... I'm so confused.
There are going to be seven buildings in the new complex. Only one would have the name "Freedom Tower", so what are you going to call the others? You can't just keep coming up with new names for each tower, it would be confusing anyway. So the other towers have to be called Two World Trade Center, Three World Trade Center... all the way to Seven World Trade Center (which is already built and already called that anyway).

The tower in question will officially be called One World Trade Center, but will have the nickname Freedom Tower, just as the original towers were One and Two World Trade Center but had the nickname Twin Towers.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:52 PM   #8030
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I'll still call it the freedom tower so don't correct me when I call it by that name. I've been say freedom tower for years so no need to call it anything else at this point.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #8031
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Excellent news. Today, March 27th, they are pouring the B2 floor slab over the PATH tunnels! This is completely unexpected. I know they've been laying rebar over the past week or so, but I'd long excepted them to pour the slab over the summer when the PATH service would be shut down. It isn't even April yet. But just look at the earthcam webcam for yourself, the concrete is being poured now!

One of the main obstacles holding up the construction should now be in the past.
I would not rejoice just yet. They only poured until the core section where the crane is affixed to. There still is more PATH roof pouring that is necessary (along with pouring the western half of the northern core so those forms can rise).
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Old March 27th, 2009, 10:19 PM   #8032
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Uh, isn't that 6 floors?
From: 'Freedom Tower' Gets First Tenant As Name Preference Changes

"Beijing Vantone is expected to take up floors 65 through 69 and parts of 64 in the 102-story tower."

Source: 1010Wins: http://www.1010wins.com/-Freedom-Tower--Gets-1st-Tenant-as-Name-Changes/4091995
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Old March 27th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #8033
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I'm sure noone will notice or mind PA dumping the name the same time they sign the Chinese up as a major tenant.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 11:04 PM   #8034
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WTF???

1 world trade centre? that is so weird. Freedom tower had perfect purpose for its name and 1WTC had purpose not to be the name of freedom tower... I'm so confused.
Yeah i agree, most people would call it Freedom Tower. And it is more easier to remember, especially for those who dont live in NYC and dont even know towers 2, 3, 5 etc.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #8035
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"Freedom Tower" is so ******* jingoistic. One World Trade is elegant.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 11:08 PM   #8036
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I'm sorry, but it's not only 1WTC, but still also the Freedom Tower to just about everyone except those who are stuck in their own little ignorant world; it needs that affectionate nickname too, and FT was what it was from day one, so clearly it will stick with the official name. Too bad words like freedom are so evil and only idiots use them. If people don't like it, don't use it. Were 1WTC and 2WTC even named the twin towes by the PA? No, but people used it. I'm pretty sure that each of the towers will gain their own nickname depeding on who leases them or whatever.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 12:21 AM   #8037
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I would not rejoice just yet. They only poured until the core section where the crane is affixed to. There still is more PATH roof pouring that is necessary (along with pouring the western half of the northern core so those forms can rise).
The B3 slab is the "PATH roof" (not really fitting because the slab poured in the late 60s is still in place as the "roof"). The B3 slab at over 2 feet thick is the "protection" slab so work above it can take place at any time. The irony is the B3 slab is really there to protect the tower from bombs etc. planted on a PATH train, not to protect the PATH.



PS: NONE of the prints or other documents have the word Freedom. They all say Tower One at the WTC, or WTC Tower One. Let the "Freedom Tower" name go the way of "Freedom Fries"

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Old March 28th, 2009, 12:52 AM   #8038
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I prefer 'One World Trade Center'

Sounds a lot more professional and is a reminder of the Original WTC.

Calling it 'Freedom Tower' is ridiculous as America and the West has not won its battle against Islamist people who wish to see democracy in the west destroyed.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #8039
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the tower was not supposed to symbolize that by any means. Its a symbol of overcoming a great tragedy in American history.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #8040
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-- Freedom Tower
-- 1776'

Old buildings were 1 WTC, 2 WTC etc.
New ones should also be 1 WTC, 2 WTC, etc.

Freedom & 1776' are typical overdone Americanism.
Something that sounds like it came from Hollywood.
Even a fake spire to cover the antennas.
The world is tired of overdone and annoying American patriotism.
Red white and blue? There are more colours, you know.

Although very tragic, The whole 911 has been overdone to death.
Cost and time overruns, lack of public input (lip service only),
political corruption. Every politician trying to get his or her name
connected to this project. Delay after delay after delay...
Costing more and more tax dollars.

Just try and state the obvious,
This project should have been halfway completed by now,
you will get flamed by over-zealous Americans.
They can have an opinion, but if yours is different,
then you are wrong... Free speech, ya right.

The 1 WTC is OK for a skyscraper, but not great.
They should have made 2 WTC as a twin, (minus spire),
just like the original WTC.
Different architects for the 5 buildings? That was dumb.
No real flow of design for all 5 buildings.
Number 4 should have been increased to over 1,000'.
4 supertalls, that would have been impressive.

I think the biggest mistake they have made is the indoor
museum will be charging admission. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Seems the "people" in charge, have missed the meaning
and importance that this site means to not only the
American people, but to the western world as well.

BILLIONS of dollars to build a transportation hub????
I think alot of people are padding their pockets at the
expense of the tax payers...

I could go on and on...
but remember, mature adults will listen to other opinions
and will respond without personal attacks.
I have followed this thread for years now, and I can't
believe the childish posts I have read.

These are just my opinions, and I'm sticking to them...
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