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Old March 28th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #8041
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dont you mean Freedom Fries?
You're right, such a silly name.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 02:48 AM   #8042
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... it needs that affectionate nickname too, and FT....
FT.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 02:50 AM   #8043
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-- Freedom Tower
-- 1776'

Old buildings were 1 WTC, 2 WTC etc.
New ones should also be 1 WTC, 2 WTC, etc.

Freedom & 1776' are typical overdone Americanism.
Something that sounds like it came from Hollywood.
Even a fake spire to cover the antennas.
The world is tired of overdone and annoying American patriotism.
Red white and blue? There are more colours, you know.

Although very tragic, The whole 911 has been overdone to death.
Cost and time overruns, lack of public input (lip service only),
political corruption. Every politician trying to get his or her name
connected to this project. Delay after delay after delay...
Costing more and more tax dollars.

Just try and state the obvious,
This project should have been halfway completed by now,
you will get flamed by over-zealous Americans.
They can have an opinion, but if yours is different,
then you are wrong... Free speech, ya right.

The 1 WTC is OK for a skyscraper, but not great.
They should have made 2 WTC as a twin, (minus spire),
just like the original WTC.
Different architects for the 5 buildings? That was dumb.
No real flow of design for all 5 buildings.
Number 4 should have been increased to over 1,000'.
4 supertalls, that would have been impressive.

I think the biggest mistake they have made is the indoor
museum will be charging admission. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Seems the "people" in charge, have missed the meaning
and importance that this site means to not only the
American people, but to the western world as well.

BILLIONS of dollars to build a transportation hub????
I think alot of people are padding their pockets at the
expense of the tax payers...

I could go on and on...
but remember, mature adults will listen to other opinions
and will respond without personal attacks.
I have followed this thread for years now, and I can't
believe the childish posts I have read.

These are just my opinions, and I'm sticking to them...
You do know that the towers slant towards the memorial and tower 2s left and right diamonds are figures of the footprints and faces the footprints of the memorial.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 03:24 AM   #8044
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Most the people coming in here saying the hated the name, didn't like it to begain with. And you only write in this thread once or twin every two years. You don't post any pictures, comments or news, you only come in here to say how much you hate it. After this bit of news dies down you want be back, so why do you guys come here. It's what every do what you do.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 04:15 AM   #8045
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http://www.wtc.com/news/freedom-towe...preferred-name


Freedom Tower has a new preferred name

Officials heading the agency that owns the site confirmed Thursday that the name had long ago taken second place to its official title: One World Trade Center.

One World Trade Center - which was once the name for the north trade center tower - has been the 1,776-foot tower's legal name for the past few years

A release announcing the first corporate tenant to sign a lease in the tower referred to the building as "One World Trade Center (the Freedom Tower)."

The agency's executive director, Chris Ward, suggested that the building's true name wouldn't be decided until well after it opens in 2013.

"There are a lot of buildings that have popular names," he said. "If the Freedom Tower is a popular name, as people think about this that will be the choice."


To me it'll always be the Freedom Tower, whatever others say
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Old March 28th, 2009, 04:21 AM   #8046
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Freedom & 1776' are typical overdone Americanism.
Something that sounds like it came from Hollywood.
Even a fake spire to cover the antennas.
The world is tired of overdone and annoying American patriotism.
Red white and blue? There are more colours, you know.
In other words, the rest of the world wishes America would stop being so American and join the bitter and cynical masses.
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Although very tragic, The whole 911 has been overdone to death.
Cost and time overruns, lack of public input (lip service only),
political corruption. Every politician trying to get his or her name
connected to this project. Delay after delay after delay...
Costing more and more tax dollars.
I think you're failing to draw a distinction between a national tragedy (ie. an event) and the world's most complex construction project that was impacted by that event.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 04:36 AM   #8047
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Number 4 should have been increased to over 1,000'.
4 supertalls, that would have been impressive.
Maybe it would impress those in this forum more, but to the passerby looking at the building with the naked eye, 35 or so feet will not make much of a difference.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 06:25 AM   #8048
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I'm sure noone will notice or mind PA dumping the name the same time they sign the Chinese up as a major tenant.
Kind of fitting isn't it? You change the name to fit the tenant. No matter what the PA wants to call the tower Americans will always calls it Freedom Tower not 1WTC. There are 3 reasons for this, the first being out of respect for the first building and those who died in it, for superstitious reasons (would people really want to work in 1WTC after what happened to the first one) and lastly because of what the new building symbolizes!
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Old March 28th, 2009, 07:37 AM   #8049
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I think you're failing to draw a distinction between a national tragedy (ie. an event) and the world's most complex construction project that was impacted by that event.
did you mean "politically" complex since that's all it is...skyscraper construction in nyc is very easy since the bedrock is right below your feet for the most part
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Old March 28th, 2009, 08:34 AM   #8050
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did you mean "politically" complex since that's all it is...skyscraper construction in nyc is very easy since the bedrock is right below your feet for the most part
No. New York City is essentially at sealevel, which means that the entire foundation had to be reinforced to keep the Hudson River from seeping in. That foundation work, together with clearing the site and searching for remains, took many of the years that most people declared wasted. With a cleared foundation, you now have to build:
  • Five major skyscrapers, which will house Class A office space comparable to all of downtown Atlanta
  • One of the world’s most significant memorials and museums
  • The third-largest transportation hub in New York City
  • A world-class retail venue serving all of Lower Manhattan
  • A major performing arts center
  • A state-of-the-art vehicle security center
  • Two brand-new city streets (Greenwich and Fulton) and two brand-new pedestrian ways (Cortlandt and Dey)
  • All of the critical infrastructure to support these projects (chiller plant, utility and communication networks, etc).
In the space of a few city blocks over the top of two continually operating mass transit rail lines.

There is no other site in the world facing the complexities of the World Trade Center rebuilding. Owing to the unique nature of the site, there is a lot of political baggage. However, the sheer logistics of this project are astounding.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #8051
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Kind of fitting isn't it? You change the name to fit the tenant. No matter what the PA wants to call the tower Americans will always calls it Freedom Tower not 1WTC. There are 3 reasons for this, the first being out of respect for the first building and those who died in it, for superstitious reasons (would people really want to work in 1WTC after what happened to the first one) and lastly because of what the new building symbolizes!
So out of respect for the first building, we call it something else so people arent' superstitious about being there. I guess this only applies to one tower?

and the new building symbolizes bureaucracy and failed politics. if "Freedom Tower" represents that to you, then ok.

americans will call it "Freedom Tower" because thats what they heard on their TV and because 70% of them are ignorant.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #8052
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Man, is it just me or does this thread have a very little amount of photo's if you compare it to other threads. No Skyscrapercity members in New York?
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Old March 28th, 2009, 08:00 PM   #8053
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So out of respect for the first building, we call it something else so people arent' superstitious about being there. I guess this only applies to one tower?

and the new building symbolizes bureaucracy and failed politics. if "Freedom Tower" represents that to you, then ok.

americans will call it "Freedom Tower" because thats what they heard on their TV and because 70% of them are ignorant.
And what's the problem with calling it FT?? if people wanna call it Freedom Tower and not 1WTC that's none of your business, call it whatever you please.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #8054
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personally im very happy the name is steering away from "freedom tower".

i felt that name was tacky, as opposed to 1WTC which is way more in the spirit of the former twin towers.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #8055
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Change thread name please.

By the way, i saw some great progress last week. Photos soon i promise.

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Old March 29th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #8056
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I am with (One World Trade Center)
Its for New York City
Love to see it again there.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 02:58 AM   #8057
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Old March 29th, 2009, 02:59 AM   #8058
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Wow A lot of process already! Great update!
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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:02 AM   #8059
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The memorial’s flying along, that's for sure.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:56 AM   #8060
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The formworks for the south core are rising!
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