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Old April 25th, 2009, 01:22 AM   #8441
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That makes a lot of sense. Instead of reducing the politics to get the transportation center built they're going to insert more politics! I'm sure that will significantly speed up the process (not). I'm also very confused why a transportation center will cost that much. It's not that big of a building and most of the major underground issues have already been resolved or at least are underway. Just another example of how costs get inflated because of politics and unions in New York City.
The Port Authority name gets thrown around indiscriminately in regards to this project. While there are lots of politics involving this site, the Port Authority is not itself a political body. Because of the close proximity of the state boundaries between New York and New Jersey, territorial disputes were common up through the early twentieth century. The PANYNJ was formed in 1921 through an interstate compact to manage the vast majority of the transportation infrastructure in the area (with several major exceptions). While the highest level titles are political appointees (much like either state's Department of Transportation), the rank and file are professionals just like you'd get at a private contracting firm.

The Phoenix Constructors contract dates back to when the rebuilding was overseen by a loose network of interlocking interests. One of the key things that got progress started was when oversight of the WTC rebuilding was consolidated under the Port Authority. Since that happened, it makes no sense for a private contractor to add another layer of bureaucracy. Since the PANYNJ knows what the needs of the entire site are, it best knows how to contract out specific jobs at specific times.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 01:29 AM   #8442
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Have they already started on the slurry wall at the Vehicle Security Center location? This looks an awfully lot like it did when they were doing the east bathtub (man, what a long time ago that was).


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Old April 25th, 2009, 02:24 AM   #8443
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When are they going to install the new crane at the memorial site?
I think we're done seeing any new cranes in the memorial pit. One did arrive a few weeks ago in the SW corner and is at street level.

My guess is the remaining crane will be used to fill out the remaining sections in the middle (between the N and S pools). Then it will probably be dismantled and reassembled at street level to finish off the remaining western portion (including that missing corner of the north pool).

After that they'll probably finish the SW corner and then move over to finishing off the steel installation over the PATH area in the middle of the site.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 02:33 AM   #8444
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If I give you a price for a stack of bricks to be delivered in 6 months then 3 months later the price of bricks falls 25% wouldn't you want me to give you a lower price?

That's part of the reasion the PA is taking over.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 11:27 AM   #8445
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Does anyone know when the north core is going to rise a level?
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Old April 25th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #8446
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The name Freedom Tower is not longer more on Ground zero. They changed the name to One World Trade Center.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:14 PM   #8447
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I prefer the name change, and I think 1 World Trade Center is a classier name anyway.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 08:14 PM   #8448
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The name Freedom Tower is not longer more on Ground zero. They changed the name to One World Trade Center.
It was always called One World Trade Center. Freedom Tower was and is a nickname, like "Twin Towers" was a nickname for the original towers. One World Trade Center was the name preferred by most of us interested in the rebuilding effort as well as most New Yorkers.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 11:36 PM   #8449
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besides, the name "Freedom Tower" is the tackiest crap I've ever heard. The building is an office tower, 1 World Trade Center, not an inspirational memorial.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 06:32 AM   #8450
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Actually, "The Freedom Tower" is the name of a very historic Beaux-Arts style building in downtown Miami, Florida. It was dubbed "The Freedom Tower" because it was the port of entry for 100,000's of Cuban refugees who flooded into Miami after Castro's takeover of that island nation.

1 World Trade Center is better.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:22 AM   #8451
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The name Freedom Tower is not longer more on Ground zero. They changed the name to One World Trade Center.
Yeah, thank Christ!!!
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Old April 26th, 2009, 09:19 AM   #8452
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You people bitch about some of the dumbest shit. I've alway called it freedom tower. And speak of what most New Yorkers perfer. Most New Yorkers don't care. What most of us care about, is rebuilding the WTC. Anything outside of that is neither here or there.

Talking about name changes. bitch about sear towers name change. Bitch if they change the name empire state building not the freedom tower.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 04:32 PM   #8453
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You people bitch about some of the dumbest shit. I've alway called it freedom tower. And speak of what most New Yorkers perfer. Most New Yorkers don't care. What most of us care about, is rebuilding the WTC. Anything outside of that is neither here or there.

Talking about name changes. bitch about sear towers name change. Bitch if they change the name empire state building not the freedom tower.
Can you say "Perpetuating the stereotype" boys and girls?
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Old April 26th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #8454
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can a mod take Freedom Tower out of the title of this thread?
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Old April 26th, 2009, 05:54 PM   #8455
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ye, just 1WTC.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #8456
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can a mod take Freedom Tower out of the title of this thread?
It's there for people who have not visited the forum in awhile or do not know of the name change. It should stay, it's already in parentheses.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:11 PM   #8457
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can a mod take Freedom Tower out of the title of this thread?
It needs to remain there! People are always going to call this building Freedom Tower just like they used always call the old buildings the Twin Towers. Personally many people including myself believe it should be the official name of this building in it probably would be except the PA tried to be politically correct in its naming because the first major announced tenant is Chinese!

If you're not gonna keep the main Freedom Tower why bother putting on the stupid spire to make the building 1776', just eliminate it, make the building look better and reduce the cost.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #8458
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I havent been here since like a month and i can see a lot of progress .
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Old April 26th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #8459
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rofl it's 91 degrees in new york HOLY SHIT
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Old April 27th, 2009, 12:25 AM   #8460
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I like the design, very impressive!
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