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Old May 9th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #8621
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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:04 AM   #8622
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weekendje new york gedaan, topaas? mooie foto's.
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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:53 AM   #8623
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Ummm....yes?
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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:19 PM   #8624
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It looks like a new wonderful flower breaking through the soil...

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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:29 PM   #8625
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As usual in the Dutch forums Great pictures Topaas!!
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Old May 10th, 2009, 01:50 AM   #8626
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Thanks for the photos, Topaas and devilsadvocate! Construction photos are so interesting!

This is going to be a phenomenal building.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #8627
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The Goldman Sachs building blends in very nicely with the World Financial Center, doesn't it? This is going to be phenominal when all the buildings are finished in about 10 years...
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Old May 10th, 2009, 09:38 AM   #8628
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The Goldman Sachs building blends in very nicely with the World Financial Center, doesn't it? This is going to be phenominal when all the buildings are finished in about 10 years...
I agree, the Goldman Sachs is not a bad tower at all. It's simple, yet bold. Some say the building could be a little taller; but that's only when you view it from the skyline, a distance away. All the pictures up close have shown it's going to be an indispensable part of the new WTC site. It's slick and modern. Yeah, fits in very well with the World Financial Center too.
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Old May 11th, 2009, 08:56 PM   #8629
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An Article about the 1WTC came out today in the USA Today newspaper...very interesting...

But i think, this thread gives more valid info about the tower than the newspaper...
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Old May 11th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #8630
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The news papers are so far behind. They still talk about 2001 design.
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Old May 11th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #8631
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An Article about the 1WTC came out today in the USA Today newspaper...very interesting...

But i think, this thread gives more valid info about the tower than the newspaper...
You overdignify that rag by calling it a newspaper.
You're right about this thread. With characters like zensteeldude and rkowens, you'll learn more about the building than most of the guys working on it.
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Old May 11th, 2009, 11:29 PM   #8632
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You overdignify that rag by calling it a newspaper.
You're right about this thread. With characters like zensteeldude and rkowens, you'll learn more about the building than most of the guys working on it.
Whoa, don't compare my level of expertise with our man zensteeldude's. There's nothing he doesn't know!

By the way, here is the USA Today article Elcrioyo was talking about (I assume)...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...10-tower_N.htm

What worries me most is this article (below) about Towers 2 and 3 possibly being reduced to 4-5 story "stumps" with nothing but retail, and nixing Tower 5 altogether. At first it just seemed like a reporter talking out of his ass, but the article says that this new site plan was unveiled by the Port Authority. When did this happen, and why haven't we heard anything more? I thought Larry Silverstein was obligated by law (because of the insurance money he received) to replace the amount of office space which was lost on 9/11.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...yscrapers.html
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Old May 12th, 2009, 12:07 AM   #8633
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At last it comes above ground.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #8634
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finally it looks as if we're making some progress
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Old May 12th, 2009, 03:29 AM   #8635
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All this talk about "Stumps" is quite depressing. There is some really great progress on the Memorial and 1 and 4WTC. But we need to start seeing work soon on 2 and 3WTC this year or else the whole sites infrastructure is in trouble.

I'm holding faith in Bloomberg to get all sides to sit down and get everything built as originally promised years ago.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 04:08 AM   #8636
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This seems messed up. You think it's possible that the media is wholly exaggerating once again just for attention? I sent a message to the Port Authority a few weeks ago about this exact topic about building stumps and according to whoever answered it, they assured me that the PA has no intention not to build towers 2 and 3. How many millions and millions of dollars and hours have been used to design and plan t2 and t3? It would be simply utterly retarded and a massive waste of resources, not to mention a disgrace to the city, if they don't at least start building the retail bases of each tower in hopes of completing them whevever they see fit. If they don't start construction soon, it will only get worse.

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Old May 12th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #8637
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You flatter me RKOwens.

Rest assured towers 1 through 4 WELL get built. Tower 5 is slightly iffy but well most likely get built also.

I noticed after studying pics at wtc.com that the north core half is being built differently than the south half. On the south half the east and west MEP shafts are being poured well after the main core where as the MEP shafts on the north half are being poured as the core goes up. In some respects the north half is ahead of the south half !

MEP=mechanical, electrical, pluming

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Old May 12th, 2009, 04:59 AM   #8638
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I'm sure quite a bit of the drama is made up by the media, yes. I have a feeling all of them will get built, how could they not? No one is going to accept stumps on the site. The whole master plan would be ruined. Tower 4 is going to be great, but it loses a lot of punch without tower 2 and 3. The site would look, and feel, very awkward with only one of the other towers built. Space shouldn't be a problem, look how fast 7WTC was filled. Businesses are definitely going to want to lease space when they see everything completed.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #8639
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Whoa, don't compare my level of expertise with our man zensteeldude's. There's nothing he doesn't know!
There's very little I do know so between Zen and me, we maintain a balance in the continuum.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #8640
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You flatter me RKOwens.

I noticed after studying pics at wtc.com that the north core half is being built differently than the south half. On the south half the east and west MEP shafts are being poured well after the main core where as the MEP shafts on the north half are being poured as the core goes up. In some respects the north half is ahead of the south half !

MEP=mechanical, electrical, pluming
Because of the delay in pouring the north core walls maybe?
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