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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:59 AM   #8741
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its this thread has be come to special talk about how to be Hijack plane...??
hallooo...??? theres no other member want go back to the topic?, cause we are here very glad if we can read progress of this project...
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Old May 21st, 2009, 09:41 AM   #8742
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You'd be crazy to think there's even a remote possibility of another 9/11-style attack in New York. As soon as the air force got word of a hijacking, the plane would be blown out of the ******* sky.
I think that was the issue last time, people were not taken seriously?

This was announced only a few hours after you made that post,

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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:16 PM   #8743
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:25 PM   #8744
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I believe I read somewhere there's going to be a glass wall (6 feet tall if I remember correctly) in addition to the concrete with a railing on top. Of course even this won't stop some idiot from trying to jump in!
That's too bad. Looking at the water through a glass wall won't be the same. But I guess you have to deal with the idiots you have and not the idiots you'd like to have.
Personally, I think the only thing you need to add to deal with jumpers is a diving board.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:36 PM   #8745
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Old May 21st, 2009, 07:06 PM   #8746
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Personally, I think the only thing you need to add to deal with jumpers is a diving board.
I couldn't agree with you more! Good way to get rid of the low end of the genetic pool.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 09:55 PM   #8747
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its looking quite impressive
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:29 PM   #8748
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Thanx for the web cam, i can see more progress since the last time i checked this thread.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:30 PM   #8749
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By the way "clear blue sky" would be a much better turn to use instead of "f__king sky"! Your expression adds nothing to the conversation.
How very pretentious of you. Pointing out my word choice adds nothing to the conversation either.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 11:35 PM   #8750
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That's too bad. Looking at the water through a glass wall won't be the same. But I guess you have to deal with the idiots you have and not the idiots you'd like to have.
Personally, I think the only thing you need to add to deal with jumpers is a diving board.
I've never heard that before. Probably BS. I've heard there would be a six foot tall glass barrier on the ROOF OF 1WTC, but not around the memorial pools. Zen said that there would be a glass barrier at the edges of the waterfalls, to stop people from going over the edge even if they did fall over the concrete parapet, but personally I think even this idea will be tossed.

Remember, changes to the memorial and museum are STILL taking place every day. The same prints which showed a glass barrier also showed a bronze plaque underwater with the victims' names, but we know from an article a few months ago that this was changed. (Not trying to undermine your prints, Zen! Just sayin', it's likely that changes have been made since, with more changes likely to be made in the future.)
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 12:43 AM   #8751
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Oh God, please don't call that mess "my prints"

Depending on what page you were looking at there are 3 different designs for the pool edge ! The entire Museum was undergoing redesign, the structural drawings were revised, the Arch. were not. Worst prints I ever saw for a project of that size.

Design 2. no longer valid.

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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:16 AM   #8752
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Guess I'll just have to see them in person. The way my retirement date has been receding like Ted Danson's hairline, I'll still be around.

I work on ships, and never get tired of being out. I'd live on the water if I could. It's always meant something most special to me.
I'm very much looking forward to these memorials. Those monsters were always my favorite buildings. I think the pool design is the right one.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:22 AM   #8753
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Hey Zen, do you know how much of the B1 level will "exist" in the footprint of 1WTC? I've just been looking at pictures like this one...

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...and the one posted by Onn a few posts back and wondering how close they are to working on the lobby level. This pic is a few weeks old, but going by the webcams and Onn's pic it seems they've already completed the B3 level throughout 1WTC and have the formwork up for the B2 level throughout all except a small section on the west side. I know you said there will be no B1 level on the west side (meaning there will just be a very tall ceiling on the west side of B2, the observation deck lobby), but will there be a B1 level on the north side... the side we're looking at in this picture? Or will they just "jump up" to working on the lobby level after they finish B2? Basically, I'm just wondering where B1 will exist and where it won't.

And do you know what the north side of 1WTC on B2 will be used for? Part of the observation deck lobby maybe? Or mechanical, parking... what?
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 06:33 AM   #8754
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Cool updates ! Construction progresses positively !
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 11:48 AM   #8755
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in the far left hand side pf the picture, is that barrier which has a road above it gonna be demolished? or does the tower end right next to the barrier?
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 04:58 PM   #8756
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in the far left hand side pf the picture, is that barrier which has a road above it gonna be demolished? or does the tower end right next to the barrier?
Yes, there is an overhang that has to be taken down. That is why you see rebar extending uder the edge of the street. On the other side of the foundations they've already stated takeing it down.

You can see what they've done already on the Webcam, look at the upper north-west side of the tower.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:09 PM   #8757
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That's nice! Thanks for sharing the link!
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:26 PM   #8758
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They are pouring a lot of concrete on the memorial site right now check the webcam.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:40 PM   #8759
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Yes, they have been pouring concrete for a few weeks now at the memorial. I wonder if this is going to take longer than they thought? The memorial is quite large, they are going to need lots of concrete. It's supposed to open in 2011. The construction is going very fast, but there is a lot more work that has to be done.

Meanwhile, it’s a race to the top between 1WTC and 4WTC.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 08:33 PM   #8760
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Yes, there is an overhang that has to be taken down. That is why you see rebar extending uder the edge of the street. On the other side of the foundations they've already stated takeing it down.

You can see what they've done already on the Webcam, look at the upper north-west side of the tower.
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then the road above that will be gone as well.
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